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	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			ADVANTA CORP
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000096638
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	PERSONAL CREDIT INSTITUTIONS [6141]
		IRS NUMBER:				231462070
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			DE
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		CORRESP

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		P.O. BOX 844
		STREET 2:		WELSH & MCKEAN ROADS
		CITY:			SPRING HOUSE
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			19477
		BUSINESS PHONE:		2154445341

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O WELSH & MCKEAN ROADS
		STREET 2:		P.O. BOX 844
		CITY:			SPRING HOUSE
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			19477-0844

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	TSO FINANCIAL CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19880306

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	TEACHERS SERVICE ORGANIZATION INC
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19850812
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<DIV align="right" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 12pt">January&nbsp;23, 2006
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt">Securities and Exchange Commission<BR>
Division of Corporate Finance<BR>
100 F Street, NE<BR>
Washington, D.C. 20549<BR>
Attn: Don Walker

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    <TD nowrap align="left">Re:</TD>
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    <TD>Advanta Corp.<br>
Form&nbsp;10-K for the Fiscal Year Ended December&nbsp;31, 2004<br>
Forms 10-Q for the Quarters Ended March&nbsp;31, 2005, June&nbsp;30, 2005, and September&nbsp;30, 2005<br>
File No.&nbsp;000-14120</TD>
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 12pt">Dear Mr.&nbsp;Walker:
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt">We have received your letter of additional comments dated December&nbsp;28, 2005 relating to Advanta
Corp.&#146;s Form 10-K for the year ended December&nbsp;31, 2004 (the &#147;2004 Form&nbsp;10-K&#148;) and Forms 10-Q for
the quarters ended March&nbsp;31, 2005, June&nbsp;30, 2005 and September&nbsp;30, 2005. Set forth below are our
responses to your requests for supplemental information, numbered to correspond with the numbering
of your comments to which they relate on your letter. In order to facilitate your review, we have
recited the comments in italics and followed each comment with our response. Defined terms used in
this response and not otherwise defined herein have the meanings ascribed to them in the 2004 Form
10-K.
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 12pt"><U>Form&nbsp;10-K for the Fiscal Year Ended December&nbsp;31, 2004</U>
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt"><U>Managed Receivable Data, page 36</U>
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    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left">1.</TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD><I>Comment: We read your supplemental response to comment 3
of our letter dated August&nbsp;25, 2005. Please tell us:</I></TD>
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    <TD width="8%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left"><B>&#149;</B></TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD><I>How you came to the conclusion risk-adjusted revenue does not constitute a
non-GAAP measure considering Item&nbsp;10(e)(2)(i) of Regulation&nbsp;S-K, and;</I></TD>
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    <TD style="font-size: 6pt">&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD width="8%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left"><B>&#149;</B></TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD><I>Why interest expense is included in risk-adjusted revenue and how its inclusion
contributes to the intent and usefulness of the measure.</I></TD>
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    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD width="1%"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD><I>Response:</I><BR>
Risk-adjusted revenues represent the total of interest income, noninterest revenues,
interest expense and provision for credit losses. We reached the</TD>
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    <TD>conclusion that risk-adjusted revenues does not constitute a non-GAAP measure since it was
calculated exclusively using financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP. In
other words, it is a subtotal of financial measures that appear on the GAAP income
statement.</TD>
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    <TD style="font-size: 6pt">&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD width="2%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD>Based on our review of other credit card issuers&#146; disclosures, there is diversity in
practice in what terminology other companies use to describe their similar financial
measure. A small number of companies use or previously used the description &#147;risk-adjusted
revenues.&#148; Others use the description &#147;risk-adjusted margin&#148; or &#147;net credit margin.&#148;</TD>
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    <TD width="2%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD>Our business, like that of other credit card issuers, is one of borrowing money to make
loans. Interest expense is effectively our cost of sales. Including interest expense in
this measure along with provision for credit losses provides investors a means of comparing
revenues after interest and credit costs among issuers. Each credit card issuer that
discloses risk-adjusted revenues or similar measures includes interest expense in their
calculations. Also, other risk-adjusted return financial measures typically consider
interest expense as part of their calculation. Further, much of our asset and liability
pricing is variable in nature. By including interest expense in the calculation of risk
adjusted revenue, the increase or decrease in risk-adjusted revenues that is attributable
to changes in market interest rates is minimized.</TD>
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    <TD width="2%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left">2.</TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD><I>Comment: Please revise future filings to remove the pro forma income statement.
Article&nbsp;11 of Regulation&nbsp;S-X does not contemplate such a presentation. Instead, revise to
discuss and quantify the impact of securitizations on your reported results, including the
impact on specific income statement captions and on net interest income and net interest
margins.</I></TD>
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    <TD width="2%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD width="1%"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD><I>Response:</I><BR>
We will remove the pro forma income statement from all future filings. Our future filings
will include disclosures regarding the impact of securitizations on our reported results,
as well as certain managed financial measures including net interest income, noninterest
revenues and provision for credit losses consistent with others in our industry.</TD>
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 12pt"><U>Market Risk Sensitivity, page 46</U>
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    <TD width="2%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left">3.</TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD><I>Comment: We read your supplemental response to comment 4 of our letter dated August
25, 2005. Please explain how you concluded that the conditions in each paragraph 13(a)
and </I><I>13(b)</I><I> of SFAS 133 did not exist as it relates to the interest rate floors and business
credit card receivables.</I></TD>
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    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD width="1%"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD><I>Response:</I><BR>
Our business credit card receivables cannot be contractually settled in such a way that we
would not recover substantially all of our initial recorded investment. Our interest rate
floors establish a minimum contractual interest rate on certain revolving balances for our
credit card customers. The interest rate floors do not impact our ability to recover
substantially all of our initial recorded investment, the principal balance of the loan
associated with the interest rate floor. At the time the interest rate floors were
established, they were set at the current market rate</TD>
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    <TD>for the relevant interest rate and there were no possible future interest rate scenarios
under which the interest rate floor would at least double our initial rate of return on the
receivable and could also result in a rate of return that is at least twice what otherwise
would be the then-current market return for a contract that has the same terms as our
receivable and that involves a debtor with a credit quality similar to our credit quality.
Based on these facts, the conditions in each paragraph 13(a) and 13(b) of SFAS 133 did not
exist as it relates to the interest rate floors and business credit card receivables.</TD>
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 12pt"><U>Note 2 &#151; Summary of Significant Accounting Policies, page 55</U>
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt"><U>Securitization Income, page 57</U>
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    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left">4.</TD>
    <TD width="1%">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD><I>Comment: In future filings, please revise your accounting policy for securitization
income to clearly describe when the gains on the sale of receivables are recorded during
the revolving period.</I></TD>
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    <TD style="font-size: 6pt">&nbsp;</TD>
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    <TD width="2%" style="background: transparent">&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD width="3%" nowrap align="left"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD width="1%"><I>&nbsp;</I></TD>
    <TD><I>Response:</I><BR>
In future filings, we will comply with this request.</TD>
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt">We appreciate the time that you and Mr.&nbsp;Komar spent to discuss your comments with us and look
forward to your response to the foregoing. If you have any questions regarding our response,
please call me at 215-444-5060 or David Weinstock, Chief Accounting Officer, at 215-444-5059.
</DIV>

<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt">Management of Advanta Corp. acknowledges that; (1)&nbsp;we are responsible for the adequacy and accuracy
of the disclosure in the filings; (2)&nbsp;staff comments or changes to disclosure in response to staff
comments do not foreclose the Commission from taking any action with respect to the filing; and (3)
we may not assert staff comments as a defense in any proceeding initiated by the Commission or any
person under the federal securities laws of the United States.
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 12pt">Very truly yours,
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<DIV align="left" style="font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 6pt"><u>/s/ Philip M. Browne&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</u><BR>
Chief Financial Officer

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    <TD nowrap align="left">cc:</TD>
    <TD>&nbsp;</TD>
    <TD>David Weinstock, Chief Accounting Officer<br>
Elizabeth Mai, General Counsel</TD>
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