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SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM DEBT (Tables)
3 Months Ended
Jan. 31, 2017
Debt Disclosure [Abstract]  
Schedule of carrying values and estimated fair values of convertible notes
The net carrying amount of Ciena's outstanding convertible notes payable was comprised of the following for the fiscal periods indicated (in thousands):

 
January 31, 2017
 
October 31, 2016
0.875% Convertible Senior Notes due June 15, 2017
 
$
185,122

 
$
231,240

3.75% Convertible Senior Notes due October 15, 2018
 
347,939

 
347,630

4.0% Convertible Senior Notes due December 15, 2020
 
190,023

 
188,509

 
 
$
723,084

 
$
767,379

The net carrying amount of Ciena's term loans were comprised of the following for the fiscal periods indicated (in thousands):
 
 
January 31, 2017
 
October 31, 2016
Term Loan Payable due July 15, 2019
 
$
241,635

 
$
241,359

Term Loan Payable due April 25, 2021
 
245,158

 
244,944

 
 
$
486,793

 
$
486,303

The following table sets forth, in thousands, the carrying value and the estimated fair value of Ciena’s outstanding issues of convertible notes as of January 31, 2017:
 
 
January 31, 2017
 
 
Carrying Value (1)
 
Fair Value(2)
0.875% Convertible Senior Notes due June 15, 2017
 
$
185,122

 
$
184,563

3.75% Convertible Senior Notes due October 15, 2018
 
347,939

 
471,188

4.0% Convertible Senior Notes due December 15, 2020
 
190,023

 
264,759

 
 
$
723,084

 
$
920,510


(1)
Includes unamortized discount, accretion of principal and debt issuance costs.
(2)
The convertible notes are categorized as Level 2 in the fair value hierarchy. Ciena estimated the fair value of its outstanding convertible notes using a market approach based upon observable inputs, such as current market transactions involving comparable securities.

The following table sets forth the carrying value and the estimated fair values of Ciena's term loans (in thousands):
 
 
January 31, 2017
 
 
Carrying Value
 
Fair Value(2)
Term Loan Payable due July 15, 2019 (1)
 
$
241,635

 
$
244,375

Term Loan Payable due April 25, 2021(1)
 
245,158

 
248,750

 
 
$
486,793

 
$
493,125


(1)
Includes unamortized bond discount and debt issuance costs.
(2)
Ciena's term loans are categorized as Level 2 in the fair value hierarchy. Ciena estimated the fair value of its term loans using a market approach based upon observable inputs, such as current market transactions involving comparable securities.
Schedule of details of convertible notes
The principal balance, unamortized discount, deferred debt issuance costs and net carrying value of the liability and equity components of our 2020 notes were as follows as of January 31, 2017 (in thousands):
 
Liability Component
 
Equity Component
 
Principal Balance
 
Unamortized Discount
 
Deferred Debt Issuance Costs
 
Net Carrying Amount
 
Net Carrying Amount
4.0% Convertible Senior Notes due December 15, 2020
$
202,160

 
$
(10,954
)
 
$
(1,183
)
 
$190,023
 
$
43,131