SEC Form 4

FORM 4
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subject to Section 16. Form 4 or Form
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See Instruction 1(b). UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C.  20549

STATEMENT OF CHANGES IN BENEFICIAL OWNERSHIP

Filed pursuant to Section 16(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, Section 17(a) of the Public Utility
Holding Company Act of 1935 or Section 30(f) of the Investment Company Act of 1940
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1. Name and Address of Reporting Person^* Hirt, F.     William (Last)                      (First)                      (Middle) 3270 Kingston Court
(Street) Erie, PA     16506 (City)                      (State)                      (Zip)
2. Issuer Name and Ticker
    or Trading Symbol
Erie Indemnity Company   ERIE 3. I.R.S. Identification
    Number of Reporting
    Person, if an entity
    (voluntary) 4. Statement for
    (Month/Year)
    November 1, 2002
5. If Amendment,
    Date of Original
    (Month/Year) 6. Relationship of Reporting Person(s) to Issuer (Check all applicable)
           X          Director              X          10% Owner            X          Officer                             Other
Officer/Other Description           Chairman of the Board 7. Individual or Joint/Group
    Filing (Check Applicable Line)
X   Individual Filing       Joint/Group Filing

Table I - Non-Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned

1. Title of Security     (Instr. 3)	2. Transaction Date     (Month/Day/Year)	3. Transaction     Code     and     Voluntary     Code     (Instr. 8) Code  |  V	4. Securities Acquired (A) or Disposed (D) Of     (Instr. 3, 4, and 5)         Amount      |         A/D         |         Price	5. Amount of     Securities     Beneficially     Owned at     End ofMonth     (Instr. 3 and 4)	6. Owner-     ship     Form:     Direct(D)     or     Indirect (I)     (Instr. 4)	7. Nature of      Indirect      Beneficial      Ownership     (Instr. 4)
Class A Common Stock				892,340.0000	D
Class A Common Stock				11,830,000.0000	I	Family Partnership

Reminder: Report on a separate line for each class of securities beneficially owned directly or indirectly.

* If the form is filed by more than one reporting person, see Instruction 4(b)(v).

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Hirt, F. William - November 2002

Form 4 (continued)

Table II - Derivative Securities Acquired, Disposed of, or Beneficially Owned

(e.g., puts, calls, warrants, options, convertible securities)

1. Title of Derivative Security     (Instr. 3)	2. Conver-     sion or     Exercise     Price of     Deri-     vative     Security	3. Transaction     Date     (Month/     Day/     Year)	4. Transaction     Code     and     Voluntary (V)     Code     (Instr.8) Code | V	5. Number of Derivative     Securities Acquired (A)     or Disposed (D) Of     (Instr. 3,4 and 5)	6. Date Exercisable(DE) and     Expiration Date(ED)     (Month/Day/Year)   (DE)     |     (ED)	7. Title and Amount of     Underlying Securities     (Instr. 3 and 4)	8. Price     of     Derivative     Security     (Instr.5)	9. Number of     Derivative     Securities     Beneficially     Owned     at End of     Month     (Instr.4)	10. Owner- ship Form of Deriv- ative Security: Direct (D) or Indirect (I)	11. Nature of       Indirect       Beneficial       Ownership       (Instr.4)
Directors' Deferred Compensation Phantom Units	$0.0000	11/01/2002	J (1) |	(A) 140.7657		Class A Common Stock - 140.7657		286.2995	D
Class B Common Stock	Current market					Class A Common Stock - 48,000.0000		20.0000	D
Class B Common Stock	Current market					Class A Common Stock - 2,808,000.0000		1,170.0000	I	Beneficiary & Trustee, Trust
Class B Common Stock	Current market					Class A Common Stock - 2,808,000.0000		1,170.0000	I	Beneficiary & Trustee, Trust-

Explanation of Responses :

** Intentional misstatements or omissions of facts constitute Federal Criminal Violations.
        See 18 U.S.C. 1001 and 15 U.S.C. 78ff(a).

Note:   File three copies of this Form, one of which must be manually signed. If space is insufficient,
            See Instruction 6 for procedure.

Potential persons who are to respond to the collection of information contained in this form are not
required to respond unless the form displays a currently valid OMB number. /s/ F. William Hirt
________________________________            11-01-2002    
** Signature of Reporting Person                         Date



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SEC 1474 (3-99)

Hirt, F. William - November 2002

Form 4 (continued)

FOOTNOTE Descriptions for Erie Indemnity Company ERIE

Form 4 - November 2002

F. William Hirt
3270 Kingston Court

Erie, PA 16506

Explanation of responses:

(1)   Acquired under Directors' Deferred Compensation Plan

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