Summary of significant accounting policies (Details) - item	3 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2023	Oct. 31, 2022
Significant Accounting Policies [Line Items]
Number of reporting units	1
Ferrellgas Partners LP
Significant Accounting Policies [Line Items]
General partner ownership interest	2.00%	2.00%

Percentage investment held by the managing member or general partner of the limited liability company (LLC) or limited partnership (LP).

Reference 1: http://fasb.org/us-gaap/role/ref/legacyRef
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 272
-SubTopic 10
-Section 50
-Paragraph 3
-Subparagraph (b)
-Publisher FASB
-URI https://asc.fasb.org//1943274/2147482987/272-10-50-3

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