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Guarantor financial information - Statements of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 6 Months Ended
Jan. 31, 2020
Oct. 31, 2019
Jan. 31, 2019
Oct. 31, 2018
Jan. 31, 2020
Jan. 31, 2019
Revenues:            
Revenues $ 510,833   $ 573,377   $ 804,047 $ 925,686
Costs and expenses:            
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 128,233   121,219   242,776 231,550
Depreciation and amortization expense 19,795   19,605   39,014 38,597
General and administrative expense 14,192   16,342   23,887 30,521
Operating expense - equipment lease expense 8,261       16,649  
Equipment lease expense, preadoption     8,415     16,278
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 630   1,944   1,425 4,692
Loss on asset sales and disposals 2,148   2,216   4,383 6,720
Operating Income (Loss) 96,378   88,683   97,008 75,192
Interest expense (47,548)   (44,891)   (93,245) (88,769)
Other income (expense), net 76   86   (56) 105
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 48,906   43,878   3,707 (13,472)
Income tax expense (benefit) 115   3   633 161
Net earnings (loss) 48,791 $ (45,717) 43,875 $ (57,508) 3,074 (13,633)
Other comprehensive loss (2,555) (6,148) (17,273) (12,587) (8,703) (29,860)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 46,236   26,602   (5,629) (43,493)
Propane [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues 485,247   550,112   758,632 885,078
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales 237,843   311,531   371,871 515,667
Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues 25,586   23,265   45,415 40,608
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales 3,353   3,422   7,034 6,469
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues 510,833   573,377   804,047 925,686
Costs and expenses:            
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 128,233   121,219   242,776 231,550
Depreciation and amortization expense 19,795   19,605   39,014 38,597
General and administrative expense 14,085   16,341   23,781 30,516
Operating expense - equipment lease expense 8,261       16,649  
Equipment lease expense, preadoption     8,415     16,278
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 630   1,944   1,425 4,692
Loss on asset sales and disposals 2,148   2,216   4,383 6,720
Operating Income (Loss) 96,485   88,684   97,114 75,197
Interest expense (38,690)   (36,150)   (75,567) (71,345)
Other income (expense), net 76   86   (56) 105
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 57,871   52,620   21,491 3,957
Income tax expense (benefit) 115   3   633 154
Net earnings (loss) 57,756 (36,898) 52,617 (48,814) 20,858 3,803
Other comprehensive loss (2,555) $ (6,148) (17,273) $ (12,587) (8,703) (29,860)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 55,201   35,344   12,155 (26,057)
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Propane [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues 485,247   550,112   758,632 885,078
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales 237,843   311,531   371,871 515,667
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues 25,586   23,265   45,415 40,608
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales 3,353   3,422   7,034 6,469
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues 510,833       804,047  
Costs and expenses:            
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 128,233   121,180   242,776 231,511
Depreciation and amortization expense 19,684   19,493   38,791 38,374
General and administrative expense 14,082   16,338   23,777 30,511
Operating expense - equipment lease expense 8,261       16,649  
Equipment lease expense, preadoption     8,415     16,278
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 630   1,944   1,425 4,692
Loss on asset sales and disposals 2,148   2,045   4,383 4,041
Operating Income (Loss) 96,599   89,074   97,341 78,208
Interest expense (37,778)   (34,655)   (73,469) (69,003)
Other income (expense), net 76   96   (56) 115
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 58,897   54,515   23,816 9,320
Income tax expense (benefit) 115   3   633 154
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P. (194)   (863)   (1,658) (3,145)
Net earnings (loss) 58,588   53,649   21,525 6,021
Other comprehensive loss (2,555)   (17,273)   (8,703) (29,860)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest 56,033   36,376   12,822 (23,839)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Propane [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues 485,247       758,632  
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales 237,843       371,871  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues 25,586       45,415  
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales 3,353       7,034  
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Subsidiary Issuer [Member]            
Costs and expenses:            
General and administrative expense 3   3   4 5
Operating Income (Loss) (3)   (3)   (4) (5)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (3)   (3)   (4) (5)
Net earnings (loss) (3)   (3)   (4) (5)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (3)   (3)   (4) (5)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]            
Costs and expenses:            
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other     39     39
Loss on asset sales and disposals     171     2,679
Operating Income (Loss)     (275)     (2,783)
Interest expense     (38)     (38)
Other income (expense), net     (10)     (10)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes     (323)     (2,831)
Net earnings (loss)     (323)     (2,831)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest     (323)     (2,831)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]            
Costs and expenses:            
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other 1,050   1,884   1,935 2,901
Depreciation and amortization expense 111   112   223 223
Operating Income (Loss) (1,161)   (1,996)   (2,158) (3,124)
Interest expense (912)   (1,457)   (2,098) (2,304)
Other income (expense), net 1,882   2,916   2,602 5,119
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (191)   (537)   (1,654) (309)
Net earnings (loss) (191)   (537)   (1,654) (309)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (191)   (537)   (1,654) (309)
Eliminations [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]            
Costs and expenses:            
Operating expense - personnel, vehicle, plant and other (1,050)   (1,884)   (1,935) (2,901)
Operating Income (Loss) 1,050   1,884   1,935 2,901
Other income (expense), net (1,882)   (2,916)   (2,602) (5,119)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (832)   (1,032)   (667) (2,218)
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P. 194   863   1,658 3,145
Net earnings (loss) (638)   (169)   991 927
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest $ (638)   (169)   $ 991 927
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues     23,265     40,608
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues     573,377     925,686
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Propane [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues     550,112     885,078
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales     311,531     515,667
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues     23,265     40,608
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales     3,422     6,469
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues     573,328     925,637
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Propane [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues     550,112     885,078
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales     311,531     515,667
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Parent Company [Member] | Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues     23,216     40,559
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales     3,308     6,355
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]            
Revenues:            
Revenues     49     49
Calculated under Revenue Guidance in Effect before Topic 606 [Member] | Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member] | Other Revenues            
Revenues:            
Revenues     49     49
Costs and expenses:            
Cost of sales     $ 114     $ 114