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Guarantor financial information Condensed Consolidated Statement of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 12 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2017
Apr. 30, 2017
Jan. 31, 2017
Oct. 31, 2016
Jul. 31, 2016
Apr. 30, 2016
Jan. 31, 2016
Oct. 31, 2015
Jul. 31, 2015
Apr. 30, 2015
Jan. 31, 2015
Oct. 31, 2014
Jul. 31, 2017
Jul. 31, 2016
Jul. 31, 2015
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         $ 1,318,412 $ 1,202,368 $ 1,657,016
Midstream operations                         466,703 625,238 107,189
Other                         145,162 211,761 260,185
Total revenues $ 433,376 $ 538,109 $ 579,250 $ 379,542 $ 409,511 $ 509,472 $ 649,238 $ 471,146 $ 382,511 $ 532,551 $ 665,973 $ 443,355 1,930,277 2,039,367 2,024,390
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         694,155 564,433 977,224
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         429,439 471,234 76,590
Cost of product sold - other                         67,267 126,237 170,697
Operating expense                         432,412 459,178 437,457
Depreciation and amortization expense                         103,351 150,513 98,579
General and administrative expense                         49,617 56,635 77,238
Equipment lease expense                         29,124 28,833 24,273
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         15,088 27,595 24,713
Asset Impairment Charges         628,800               0 658,118 0
Loss on disposal of assets                         14,457 30,835 7,099
Operating Income (Loss)                         95,367 (534,244) 130,520
Interest and Debt Expense                         (152,485) (137,937) (100,396)
Other income (expense), net                         1,474 110 (350)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         (55,644) (672,071) 29,774
Income tax expense                         (1,143) (36) (315)
Net earnings (loss) (56,249) 6,691 38,528 (43,471) (668,142) 18,918 57,755 (80,566) (59,333) 36,220 86,371 (33,169) (54,501) (672,035) 30,089
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         25,324 28,758 (45,576)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         (29,177) (643,277) (15,487)
Parent Company [Member]                              
Costs and expenses:                              
General and administrative expense                         139 520 104
Operating Income (Loss)                         (28,904) (649,291) 45,854
Interest and Debt Expense                         (25,297) (16,119) (16,169)
Income tax expense                         (6) (5) 69
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         (28,765) (648,771) 45,958
Net earnings (loss)                         (54,207) (665,415) 29,620
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]                              
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         1,318,412 1,202,368 1,657,016
Midstream operations                         466,703 625,238 107,189
Other                         145,162 211,761 260,185
Total revenues 433,376 538,109 579,250 379,542 409,511 509,472 649,238 471,146 382,511 532,551 665,973 443,355 1,930,277 2,039,367 2,024,390
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         694,155 564,433 977,224
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         429,439 471,234 76,590
Cost of product sold - other                         67,267 126,237 170,697
Operating expense                         432,412 459,178 437,353
Depreciation and amortization expense                         103,351 150,513 98,579
General and administrative expense                         49,478 56,115 77,238
Equipment lease expense                         29,124 28,833 24,273
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         15,088 27,595 24,713
Asset Impairment Charges         628,800               0 658,118 0
Loss on disposal of assets                         14,457 30,835 7,099
Operating Income (Loss)                         95,506 (533,724) 130,624
Interest and Debt Expense                         (127,188) (121,818) (84,227)
Loss on extinguishment of debt                         0 0 0
Other income (expense), net                         1,474 110 (354)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         (30,208) (655,432) 46,043
Income tax expense                         (1,149) (41) (384)
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         0 0 0
Net earnings (loss) $ (47,614) $ 15,395 $ 42,600 $ (39,440) $ (664,091) $ 23,049 $ 62,187 $ (76,536) $ (55,249) $ 40,404 $ 90,409 $ (29,137) (29,059) (655,391) 46,427
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         25,324 28,758 (45,576)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         (3,735) (626,633) 851
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Parent Company [Member]                              
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         1,318,412 1,202,368 1,657,016
Midstream operations                         0 0 0
Other                         69,962 73,200 73,704
Total revenues                         1,388,374 1,275,568 1,730,720
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         694,155 564,433 977,224
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         0 (1,545) 0
Cost of product sold - other                         8,473 8,867 7,649
Operating expense                         398,584 399,680 413,112
Depreciation and amortization expense                         72,919 75,059 75,834
General and administrative expense                         44,810 50,592 76,250
Equipment lease expense                         28,560 28,322 24,213
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         15,088 27,595 24,713
Asset Impairment Charges                           0  
Loss on disposal of assets                         9,198 9,180 7,095
Operating Income (Loss)                         116,587 113,385 124,630
Interest and Debt Expense                         (80,866) (77,493) (72,765)
Other income (expense), net                         850 110 (354)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         36,571 36,002 51,511
Income tax expense                         217 839 292
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         (65,413) (690,554) (4,792)
Net earnings (loss)                         (29,059) (655,391) 46,427
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         25,324 28,758 (45,576)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         (3,735) (626,633) 851
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                              
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Midstream operations                         466,703 625,238 107,189
Other                         75,200 138,561 186,481
Total revenues                         541,903 763,799 293,670
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         429,439 472,779 76,590
Cost of product sold - other                         58,794 117,370 163,048
Operating expense                         38,188 58,789 25,189
Depreciation and amortization expense                         30,183 75,212 22,745
General and administrative expense                         4,663 5,516 984
Equipment lease expense                         564 511 60
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges                           658,118  
Loss on disposal of assets                         5,259 21,655 4
Operating Income (Loss)                         (25,187) (646,151) 5,050
Interest and Debt Expense                         (43,839) (42,325) (8,499)
Other income (expense), net                         624 0 0
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         (68,402) (688,476) (3,449)
Income tax expense                         (1,366) (880) (676)
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         0 0 0
Net earnings (loss)                         (67,036) (687,596) (2,773)
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         0 0 2
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         (67,036) (687,596) (2,771)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]                              
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Midstream operations                         0 0 0
Other                         0 0 0
Total revenues                         0 0 0
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other                         0 0 0
Operating expense                         95 4,028 5,206
Depreciation and amortization expense                         249 242 0
General and administrative expense                         0 0 0
Equipment lease expense                         0 0 0
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges                           0  
Loss on disposal of assets                         0 0 0
Operating Income (Loss)                         (344) (4,270) (5,206)
Interest and Debt Expense                         (2,480) (2,186) (2,622)
Other income (expense), net                         4,452 3,505 5,813
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         1,628 (2,951) (2,015)
Income tax expense                         0 0 0
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         0 0 0
Net earnings (loss)                         1,628 (2,951) (2,015)
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         0 0 (4)
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         1,628 (2,951) (2,019)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Co-issuer [Member]                              
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Midstream operations                         0 0 0
Other                         0 0 0
Total revenues                         0 0 0
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other                         0 0 0
Operating expense                         0 0 0
Depreciation and amortization expense                         0 0 0
General and administrative expense                         5 7 4
Equipment lease expense                         0 0 0
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges                           0  
Loss on disposal of assets                         0 0 0
Operating Income (Loss)                         (5) (7) (4)
Interest and Debt Expense                         0 0 0
Other income (expense), net                         0 0 0
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         (5) (7) (4)
Income tax expense                         0 0 0
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         0 0 0
Net earnings (loss)                         (5) (7) (4)
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         0 0 0
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         (5) (7) (4)
Eliminations [Member]                              
Revenues:                              
Propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Midstream operations                         0 0 0
Other                         0 0 0
Total revenues                         0 0 0
Costs and expenses:                              
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales                         0 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations                         0 0 0
Cost of product sold - other                         0 0 0
Operating expense                         (4,455) (3,319) (6,154)
Depreciation and amortization expense                         0 0 0
General and administrative expense                         0 0 0
Equipment lease expense                         0 0 0
Employee Stock Ownership Plan (ESOP), Compensation Expense                         0 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges                           0  
Loss on disposal of assets                         0 0 0
Operating Income (Loss)                         4,455 3,319 6,154
Interest and Debt Expense                         (3) 186 (341)
Other income (expense), net                         (4,452) (3,505) (5,813)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes                         0 0 0
Income tax expense                         0 0 0
Equity in earnings (loss) of Ferrellgas, L.P.                         65,413 690,554 4,792
Net earnings (loss)                         65,413 690,554 4,792
Other comprehensive income (loss)                         0 0 2
Comprehensive Income (Loss), Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest                         $ 65,413 $ 690,554 $ 4,794