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Guarantor financial information - Condensed Consolidated Statements of Earnings (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2016
Oct. 31, 2015
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales $ 242,399 $ 245,301
Midstream operations 108,044 193,670
Other 29,099 32,175
Total revenues 379,542 471,146
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 119,212 121,751
Cost of sales - midstream operations 94,642 153,604
Cost of product sold - other 11,746 14,448
Operating expense 105,086 116,199
Depreciation and amortization expense 26,202 36,979
General and administrative expense 14,269 19,144
Equipment lease expense 7,349 7,032
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 3,754 5,256
Goodwill impairment 0 29,316
Loss on disposal of assets 6,423 14,917
Operating income (loss) (9,141) (47,500)
Interest expense (35,428) (33,788)
Other income (expense), net 508 (122)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (44,061) (81,410)
Income tax expense (590) (844)
Net earnings (loss) (43,471) (80,566)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 9,376 8,610
Comprehensive income (34,095) (71,956)
Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 242,399 245,301
Midstream operations 108,044 193,670
Other 29,099 32,175
Total revenues 379,542 471,146
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 119,212 121,751
Cost of sales - midstream operations 94,642 153,604
Cost of product sold - other 11,746 14,448
Operating expense 105,086 116,199
Depreciation and amortization expense 26,202 36,979
General and administrative expense 14,269 19,144
Equipment lease expense 7,349 7,032
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 3,754 5,256
Asset Impairment Charges   29,316
Goodwill impairment 0 29,316
Loss on disposal of assets 6,423 14,917
Operating income (loss) (9,141) (47,500)
Interest expense (31,398) (29,758)
Other income (expense), net 508 (122)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (40,031) (77,380)
Income tax expense (591) (844)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (39,440) (76,536)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 9,376 8,610
Comprehensive income (30,064) (67,926)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas, L.P. (Parent and Co-Issuer) [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 242,399 245,301
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 17,326 17,377
Total revenues 259,725 262,678
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 119,212 121,748
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 2,430 2,538
Operating expense 97,655 96,974
Depreciation and amortization expense 18,277 18,550
General and administrative expense 12,863 17,429
Equipment lease expense 7,210 6,882
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 3,754 5,256
Asset Impairment Charges   0
Loss on disposal of assets 1,447 1,545
Operating income (loss) (3,123) (8,244)
Interest expense (20,352) (18,521)
Other income (expense), net (47) (122)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (23,522) (26,887)
Income tax expense (29) 168
Equity in earnings of subsidiary (15,947) (49,481)
Net earnings (loss) (39,440) (76,536)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 9,376 8,610
Comprehensive income (30,064) (67,926)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Ferrellgas Finance Corp. (Co-Issuer) [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 0 0
Total revenues 0 0
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0
Operating expense 0 0
Depreciation and amortization expense 0 0
General and administrative expense 2 3
Equipment lease expense 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges   0
Loss on disposal of assets 0 0
Operating income (loss) (2) (3)
Interest expense 0 0
Other income (expense), net 0 0
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (2) (3)
Income tax expense 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (2) (3)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income (2) (3)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 108,044 193,670
Other 11,773 14,798
Total revenues 119,817 208,468
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 3
Cost of sales - midstream operations 94,642 153,604
Cost of product sold - other 9,316 11,910
Operating expense 10,246 17,659
Depreciation and amortization expense 7,872 18,429
General and administrative expense 1,404 1,712
Equipment lease expense 139 150
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges   29,316
Loss on disposal of assets 4,976 13,372
Operating income (loss) (8,778) (37,687)
Interest expense (10,673) (10,688)
Other income (expense), net 555 0
Earnings (loss) before income taxes (18,896) (48,375)
Income tax expense (562) (1,012)
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) (18,334) (47,363)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income (18,334) (47,363)
Reportable Legal Entities [Member] | Non-Guarantor Subsidiaries [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 0 0
Total revenues 0 0
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0
Operating expense (2,105) 2,370
Depreciation and amortization expense 53 0
General and administrative expense 0 0
Equipment lease expense 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges   0
Loss on disposal of assets 0 0
Operating income (loss) 2,052 (2,370)
Interest expense (370) (441)
Other income (expense), net 707 696
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 2,389 (2,115)
Income tax expense 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 0 0
Net earnings (loss) 2,389 (2,115)
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income 2,389 (2,115)
Eliminations [Member]    
Revenues:    
Propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Midstream operations 0 0
Other 0 0
Total revenues 0 0
Costs and expenses:    
Cost of product sold - propane and other gas liquids sales 0 0
Cost of sales - midstream operations 0 0
Cost of product sold - other 0 0
Operating expense (710) (804)
Depreciation and amortization expense 0 0
General and administrative expense 0 0
Equipment lease expense 0 0
Non-cash employee stock ownership plan compensation charge 0 0
Asset Impairment Charges   0
Loss on disposal of assets 0 0
Operating income (loss) 710 804
Interest expense (3) (108)
Other income (expense), net (707) (696)
Earnings (loss) before income taxes 0 0
Income tax expense 0 0
Equity in earnings of subsidiary 15,947 49,481
Net earnings (loss) 15,947 49,481
Other comprehensive income (loss) 0 0
Comprehensive income $ 15,947 $ 49,481