Guarantor financial information - Narrative (Details) - Ferrellgas, L.P. [Member] $ in Millions	Oct. 31, 2016 USD ($)
Condensed Financial Statements, Captions [Line Items]
Ownership interest in subsidiaries	100.00%
Fixed Rate Six Point Seven Five Due Two Thousand Twenty Three [Member]
Condensed Financial Statements, Captions [Line Items]
Debt issuance principal amount	$ 500.0
Debt interest rate	6.75%

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Face (par) amount of debt instrument at time of issuance.

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The percentage of ownership of common stock or equity participation in the investee accounted for under the equity method of accounting.

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