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Revenues from contracts with customers (Tables)
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2019
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Year Ended September 30,
 
2019
 
2018
 
2017
Revenues from contracts with clients:
 
 
 
 
 
Commission and clearing fees:
 
 
 
 
 
Sales-based:
 
 
 
 
 
Exchange-traded futures and options
$
144.9

 
$
163.4

 
$
129.7

OTC derivative brokerage
32.1
 
30.3

 
28.3

Equities and fixed income
16.1
 
11.2

 
16.0

Mutual funds
7.5
 
7.2

 
7.9

Insurance and annuity products
7.3
 
5.8

 
6.0

Other
1.3
 
0.9

 
2.0

Total sales-based commission
209.2

 
218.8

 
189.9

Trailing:
 
 
 
 
 
Mutual funds
12.4

 
13.2

 
13.1

Insurance and annuity products
14.4

 
14.6

 
14.2

Total trailing commission
26.8

 
27.8

 
27.3

 
 
 
 
 
 
Clearing fees
118.8

 
123.3

 
88.5

Trade conversion fees
7.5

 
6.8

 

Other
10.1

 
15.1

 
12.9

Total commission and clearing fees:
372.4

 
391.8

 
318.6

 
 
 
 
 
 
Consulting, management, and account fees:
 
 
 
 
 
Underwriting fees
0.7

 
1.7

 
2.3

Asset management fees
26.2

 
24.8

 
25.7

Advisory and consulting fees
20.0

 
19.0

 
17.7

Sweep program fees
16.3

 
11.6

 
6.0

Client account fees
10.6

 
11.1

 
10.8

Other
5.8

 
2.9

 
2.5

Total consulting, management, and account fees
79.6

 
71.1

 
65.0

Total revenues from contracts with clients
$
452.0

 
$
462.9

 
$
383.6

 
 
 
 
 
 
Method of revenue recognition:
 
 
 
 
 
Point-in-time
$
362.7

 
$
379.7

 
$
306.9

Time elapsed
89.3

 
83.2

 
76.7

Total revenues from contracts with clients
452.0

 
462.9

 
383.6

Other sources of revenues
 
 
 
 
 
Physical precious metals trading
30,694.5

 
25,762.9

 
28,018.4

Physical agricultural and energy product trading
1,135.8

 
919.5

 
654.9

Principal gains, net
415.8

 
354.1

 
297.0

Interest income
198.9

 
123.3

 
69.7

Total revenues
$
32,897.0

 
$
27,622.7

 
$
29,423.6