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Receivables from customers, net and notes receivable, net - Bad Debt Expense and Recoveries (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Millions
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2015
Sep. 30, 2014
Sep. 30, 2013
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Provision for Doubtful Accounts $ 7.3 $ 5.5 $ 0.7
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease) 6.6 5.1 0.2
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Charge-offs 0.6 0.7 0.0
Commercial Hedging [Member]      
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease)   3.8  
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Charge-offs 0.7 0.6 0.6
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Recoveries   0.2 $ 0.1
Commercial Hedging [Member] | OTC Customer [Member]      
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease) 2.3    
Commercial Hedging [Member] | LME Customer [Member]      
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease) 0.6    
Physical Commodities Segment [Member]      
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease) 2.8 0.9  
Securities Segment [Member]      
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease) 0.5 $ 0.7  
Securities Segment [Member] | Provident Group Asset Acquisition [Member]      
Accounts, Notes, Loans and Financing Receivable [Line Items]      
Allowance for Doubtful Accounts Receivable, Period Increase (Decrease) $ 1.1