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3 Months Ended
Mar. 31, 2013
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   U.S. Property & Casualty Professional Liability Accident & Health U.S. Surety & Credit International Investing Corporate & Other Consolidated
Three months ended March 31, 2013                       
                          
Net earned premium$93,531 $92,779 $217,125 $47,177 $105,142 $0 $5,432 $561,186
Other revenue 7,184  (414)  1,190  237  778  64,335  (130)  73,180
 Segment revenue  100,715   92,365   218,315   47,414   105,920   64,335  5,302  634,366
Loss and LAE 52,156  56,386  160,427  13,214  45,919  0  4,595  332,697
Other expense 27,305  17,748  31,126  26,279  35,709  0  12,106  150,273
 Segment expense  79,461   74,134   191,553   39,493   81,628   -   16,701   482,970
  Segment pretax earnings (loss)$21,254 $18,231 $26,762 $7,921 $24,292 $64,335 $(11,399) $151,396

                          
Three months ended March 31, 2012                     
                          
Net earned premium$89,018 $101,438 $206,881 $47,729 $91,284 $0 $10,791 $547,141
Other revenue 2,363  133  1,337  215  1,194  57,181  (41)  62,382
 Segment revenue  91,381   101,571   208,218   47,944   92,478   57,181  10,750  609,523
Loss and LAE 49,261  69,155  152,522  11,033  37,767  0  9,190  328,928
Other expense 29,722  17,531  30,154  28,120  32,153  0  25,955  163,635
 Segment expense  78,983   86,686   182,676   39,153   69,920   -   35,145   492,563
  Segment pretax earnings (loss)$12,398 $14,885 $25,542 $8,791 $22,558 $57,181 $(24,395) $116,960