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9 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2011
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   U.S. Property & Casualty Professional Liability Accident & Health U.S. Surety & Credit International Investing Corporate & Other Consolidated
Nine months ended September 30, 2011                       
                          
Net earned premium$245,121 $307,240 $603,656 $153,309 $267,458 $0 $203 $1,576,987
Other revenue 16,556  358  3,471  955  2,791  158,472  (506)  182,097
 Segment revenue  261,677   307,598   607,127   154,264   270,249   158,472  (303)  1,759,084
                          
Loss and LAE 148,783  257,632  438,883  42,351  175,635  0  (1,044)  1,062,240
Other expense 82,202  40,055  92,882  82,909  99,754  0  56,466  454,268
 Segment expense  230,985   297,687   531,765   125,260   275,389   -  55,422   1,516,508
  Segment pretax earnings (loss) $30,692 $9,911 $75,362 $29,004 $(5,140) $158,472 $(55,725) $242,576

                          
Nine months ended September 30, 2010                       
                          
Net earned premium$258,427 $321,849 $567,739 $148,427 $234,471 $0 $1,225 $1,532,138
Other revenue 24,128  458  2,830  455  6,177  158,200  987  193,235
 Segment revenue  282,555   322,307   570,569   148,882   240,648   158,200  2,212  1,725,373
                          
Loss and LAE 164,684  196,154  412,438  38,157  107,601  0  3,611  922,645
Other expense 75,890  57,171  89,967  81,699  89,559  0  53,652  447,938
 Segment expense  240,574   253,325   502,405   119,856   197,160   -   57,263   1,370,583
                          
  Segment pretax earnings (loss)$41,981 $68,982 $68,164 $29,026 $43,488 $158,200 $(55,051) $354,790

   U.S. Property & Casualty Professional Liability Accident & Health U.S. Surety & Credit International Investing Corporate & Other Consolidated
Three months ended September 30, 2011                       
                          
Net earned premium$85,946 $104,066 $202,999 $51,906 $99,294 $0 $45 $544,256
Other revenue 6,890  109  1,277  254  889  57,439  (590)  66,268
 Segment revenue 92,836  104,175  204,276  52,160  100,183  57,439  (545)  610,524
                          
Loss and LAE 56,355  119,617  147,278  12,664  45,242  0  (784)  380,372
Other expense 26,627  6,023  30,887  27,657  35,734  0  20,432  147,360
 Segment expense 82,982  125,640  178,165  40,321  80,976  0  19,648  527,732
  Segment pretax earnings (loss)$9,854 $(21,465) $26,111 $11,839 $19,207 $57,439 $(20,193) $82,792

                          
Three months ended September 30, 2010                       
                          
Net earned premium$84,802 $103,696 $193,252 $49,807 $84,539 $0 $70 $516,166
Other revenue 5,033  20  1,113  127  1,466  51,894  129  59,782
 Segment revenue  89,835   103,716   194,365   49,934   86,005   51,894  199  575,948
                          
Loss and LAE 61,883  63,212  138,869  10,296  23,227  0  (349)  297,138
Other expense 21,289  18,866  30,908  28,007  29,654  0  18,074  146,798
 Segment expense  83,172   82,078   169,777   38,303   52,881   -   17,725   443,936
                          
  Segment pretax earnings (loss)$6,663 $21,638 $24,588 $11,631 $33,124 $51,894 $(17,526) $132,012