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Benefit Plans Share based payment awards other than options (Details)
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2016
$ / shares
shares
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award [Line Items]  
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Non-Option Equity Instruments, Outstanding, Number | shares 483,570
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value | $ / shares $ 16.67
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Non-Option Equity Instruments, Granted | shares 704,153
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Grants in Period, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value | $ / shares $ 6.40
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Non-Option Equity Instruments, Exercised | shares 182,738
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Vested in Period, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value | $ / shares $ 16.11
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Non-Option Equity Instruments, Forfeitures | shares 14,950
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Forfeitures, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value | $ / shares $ 13.21
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Non-Option Equity Instruments, Outstanding, Number | shares 990,035
Share-based Compensation Arrangement by Share-based Payment Award, Equity Instruments Other than Options, Nonvested, Weighted Average Grant Date Fair Value | $ / shares $ 9.52