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GOODWILL AND OTHER INTANGIBLE ASSETS (Tables)
12 Months Ended
Oct. 28, 2018
Goodwill and Intangible Assets Disclosure [Abstract]  
Carrying amount of goodwill by operating segment
Our goodwill balance and changes in the carrying amount of goodwill in the Commercial segment are as follows (in thousands):
 
 
Total
Balance, October 30, 2016
 
$
154,271

Impairment (1)
 
(6,000
)
Other, net
 
20

Balance, October 29, 2017
 
$
148,291

Balance, October 28, 2018
 
$
148,291


(1) Our July 31, 2017 goodwill impairment testing indicated an impairment as the carrying value of CENTRIA’s coil coating operations exceeded its fair value. As a result, we recorded a non-cash charge of $6.0 million in goodwill impairment on our consolidated statements of operations for the year ended October 29, 2017.
Schedule of indefinite-lived intangible activity
The following table represents all our intangible assets activity for the fiscal years ended October 28, 2018 and October 29, 2017 (in thousands):
 
Range of Life
(Years)
 
October 28,
2018
 
October 29,
2017
Amortized intangible assets:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cost:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Trade names
 
15
 
 
$
29,167

 
$
29,167

Customer lists and relationships
12
20
 
136,210

 
136,210

 
 
 
 
 
$
165,377

 
$
165,377

Accumulated amortization:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Trade names
 
 
 
 
$
(12,657
)
 
$
(10,713
)
Customer lists and relationships
 
 
 
 
(38,646
)
 
(30,971
)
 
 
 
 
 
$
(51,303
)
 
$
(41,684
)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Net book value
 
 
 
 
$
114,074

 
$
123,693

Indefinite-lived intangible assets:
 
 
 
 
  

 
  

Trade names
 
 
 
 
13,455

 
13,455

Total intangible assets at net book value
 
 
 
 
$
127,529

 
$
137,148

Schedule of finite-lived intangible activity
The following table represents all our intangible assets activity for the fiscal years ended October 28, 2018 and October 29, 2017 (in thousands):
 
Range of Life
(Years)
 
October 28,
2018
 
October 29,
2017
Amortized intangible assets:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cost:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Trade names
 
15
 
 
$
29,167

 
$
29,167

Customer lists and relationships
12
20
 
136,210

 
136,210

 
 
 
 
 
$
165,377

 
$
165,377

Accumulated amortization:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Trade names
 
 
 
 
$
(12,657
)
 
$
(10,713
)
Customer lists and relationships
 
 
 
 
(38,646
)
 
(30,971
)
 
 
 
 
 
$
(51,303
)
 
$
(41,684
)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Net book value
 
 
 
 
$
114,074

 
$
123,693

Indefinite-lived intangible assets:
 
 
 
 
  

 
  

Trade names
 
 
 
 
13,455

 
13,455

Total intangible assets at net book value
 
 
 
 
$
127,529

 
$
137,148

Amortization expense over next five fiscal years
We expect to recognize amortization expense over the next five fiscal years as follows (in thousands):
2019
$
9,620

2020
9,327

2021
9,064

2022
8,721

2023
8,667