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Taxes (Tables)
6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2012
Taxes [Abstract]  
Provision (Benefit) For Income Taxes And Effective Tax Rates
     Three Months Ended
April 30,
    Six Months Ended
April 30,
 
     2012     2011     2012     2011  
     (in thousands)     (in thousands)  

Income before income taxes

   $ 23,489      $ 57,259      $ 97,318      $ 109,591   

Provision (benefit) for income tax

   $ 2,518      $ (23,855   $ 19,653      $ (19,749

Effective tax rate

     10.7     (41.7 )%      20.2     (18.0 )%