Retirement Plans - Defined Benefit Plan, Plan with Projected Benefit Obligation in Excess of Plan Assets (Details) - USD ($) $ in Millions	Sep. 30, 2023	Sep. 30, 2022
Pension Plan
Schedule Of Retirement Plans [Line Items]
Accumulated benefit obligation	$ 1,834	$ 2,004
Projected benefit obligation	1,846	2,013
Fair value of plan assets	1,618	1,720
Fair value of plan assets	1,633	1,729
Postretirement Benefits
Schedule Of Retirement Plans [Line Items]
Projected benefit obligation	58	68
Fair value of plan assets	$ 24	$ 28

Schedule Of Retirement Plans [Line Items]

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