Retirement Plans Projected Benefit Payments from Plans (Details) $ in Millions	12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2017 USD ($)
Defined Benefit Plans and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans Table Text Block [Line Items]
Estimated future employer contributions to defined benefit plans in next fiscal year	$ 100
Pension Benefits
Defined Benefit Plans and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans Table Text Block [Line Items]
2018	332
2019	329
2020	329
2021	330
2022	338
2023-2027	1,737
Postretirement Benefits
Defined Benefit Plans and Other Postretirement Benefit Plans Table Text Block [Line Items]
Estimated future employer contributions to defined benefit plans in next fiscal year	5
2018	19
2019	19
2020	19
2021	19
2022	18
2023-2027	$ 76

Amount of benefits from a defined benefit plan expected to be paid in the five fiscal years after the fifth fiscal year following the latest fiscal year. Excludes interim and annual periods when interim periods are reported on a rolling approach, from latest balance sheet date.

Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
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-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 715
-SubTopic 20
-Section 50
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (f)
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Amount of employer's best estimate of contributions expected to be paid to the plan during the next fiscal year beginning after the date of the latest statement of financial position.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
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