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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0001209191-04-052289.txt : 20041112
<SEC-HEADER>0001209191-04-052289.hdr.sgml : 20041111
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20041112090954
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-04-052289
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20041108
FILED AS OF DATE:		20041112
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20041112

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PICO HOLDINGS INC /NEW
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000830122
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	FIRE, MARINE & CASUALTY INSURANCE [6331]
		IRS NUMBER:				942723335
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			CA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		875 PROSPECT ST
		STREET 2:		STE 301
		CITY:			LA JOLLA
		STATE:			CA
		ZIP:			92037
		BUSINESS PHONE:		6194566022

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		875 PROSPECT ST
		STREET 2:		STE 301
		CITY:			LA JOLLA
		STATE:			CA
		ZIP:			92037

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	CITATION INSURANCE GROUP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19940527

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			HART JOHN R
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001027711
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			CA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	033-36383
		FILM NUMBER:		041135483

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		1200 PROSPECT ST
		STREET 2:		SUITE 325
		CITY:			LA JOLLA
		STATE:			CA
		ZIP:			92037
		BUSINESS PHONE:		8585511090

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		875 PROSPECT ST
		STREET 2:		SUITE 301
		CITY:			LA JOLLA
		STATE:			CA
		ZIP:			92037
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    <documentType>4</documentType>

    <periodOfReport>2004-11-08</periodOfReport>

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    <issuer>
        <issuerCik>0000830122</issuerCik>
        <issuerName>PICO HOLDINGS INC /NEW</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>PICO</issuerTradingSymbol>
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    <reportingOwner>
        <reportingOwnerId>
            <rptOwnerCik>0001027711</rptOwnerCik>
            <rptOwnerName>HART JOHN R</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
            <rptOwnerStreet1>875 PROSPECT STREET</rptOwnerStreet1>
            <rptOwnerStreet2>SUITE 301</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>LA JOLLA</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>CA</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>92037-4264</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
        </reportingOwnerAddress>
        <reportingOwnerRelationship>
            <isDirector>1</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>1</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
            <officerTitle>President and CEO</officerTitle>
        </reportingOwnerRelationship>
    </reportingOwner>

    <nonDerivativeTable>
        <nonDerivativeTransaction>
            <securityTitle>
                <value>COMMON</value>
            </securityTitle>
            <transactionDate>
                <value>2004-11-08</value>
            </transactionDate>
            <deemedExecutionDate></deemedExecutionDate>
            <transactionCoding>
                <transactionFormType>4</transactionFormType>
                <transactionCode>P</transactionCode>
                <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
            </transactionCoding>
            <transactionTimeliness>
                <value></value>
            </transactionTimeliness>
            <transactionAmounts>
                <transactionShares>
                    <value>127.32</value>
                </transactionShares>
                <transactionPricePerShare>
                    <value>19.12</value>
                </transactionPricePerShare>
                <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
                    <value>A</value>
                </transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
            </transactionAmounts>
            <postTransactionAmounts>
                <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
                    <value>15957.5866</value>
                </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
            </postTransactionAmounts>
            <ownershipNature>
                <directOrIndirectOwnership>
                    <value>I</value>
                </directOrIndirectOwnership>
                <natureOfOwnership>
                    <value>BY 401k PLAN</value>
                </natureOfOwnership>
            </ownershipNature>
        </nonDerivativeTransaction>
    </nonDerivativeTable>

    <footnotes></footnotes>

    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>John R. Hart by James F. Mosier per Power of Attorney dated September 17, 2002.</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2004-11-12</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>

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