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Other Income - Net
9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2018
Other Income and Expenses [Abstract]  
Other Income - net
Other Income – Net
The table below provides the significant components of other income – net (amounts in thousands):
 
Nine months ended July 31,
 
Three months ended July 31,
 
2018
 
2017
 
2018
 
2017
Interest income
$
5,259

 
$
3,834

 
$
1,967

 
$
1,904

Income from ancillary businesses
10,209

 
13,205

 
2,753

 
3,489

Management fee income from home building
unconsolidated entities, net
9,600

 
10,448

 
2,175

 
2,477

Retained customer deposits
4,951

 
4,461

 
796

 
1,407

Income from land and other sales
4,175

 
7,503

 
888

 
2,417

Other
1,562

 
(1,344
)
 
2,386

 
(276
)
Total other income – net
$
35,756

 
$
38,107

 
$
10,965

 
$
11,418


Management fee income from home building unconsolidated entities presented above primarily represents fees earned by Toll Brothers City Living® (“City Living”) and traditional home building operations. In addition, in the nine-month periods ended July 31, 2018 and 2017, our apartment living operations earned fees from unconsolidated entities of $5.8 million and $4.2 million, respectively. In the three-month periods ended July 31, 2018 and 2017, our apartment living operations earned fees from unconsolidated entities of $1.9 million and $1.4 million, respectively. Fees earned by our apartment living operations are included in income from ancillary businesses.
Income from ancillary businesses is generated by our mortgage, title, landscaping, security monitoring, Gibraltar, and golf course and country club operations. The table below provides, for the periods indicated, revenues and expenses for our ancillary businesses (amounts in thousands):
 
Nine months ended July 31,
 
Three months ended July 31,
 
2018
 
2017
 
2018
 
2017
Revenues
$
103,049

 
$
96,536

 
$
37,815

 
$
35,242

Expenses
$
92,840

 
$
83,331

 
$
35,062

 
$
31,753


The table below provides, for the periods indicated, revenues and expenses recognized from land and other sales (amounts in thousands):
 
Nine months ended July 31,
 
Three months ended July 31,
 
2018
 
2017
 
2018
 
2017
Revenues
$
56,136

 
$
151,470

 
$
10,949

 
$
4,633

Expenses
(48,127
)
 
(148,625
)
 
(10,061
)
 
(2,420
)
Deferred gain on land sale to joint venture
(3,834
)
 


 


 


Deferred gain recognized

 
4,658

 

 
204

Income from land and other sales
$
4,175

 
$
7,503

 
$
888

 
$
2,417


Land sale revenues for the nine months ended July 31, 2018 include $28.8 million related to in substance real estate sale transactions which resulted in two Rental Property Joint Ventures in which we have a 50% interest in each. On one of these transactions, we recognized a gain of $1.0 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2018. In addition, due to our continued involvement in the joint venture primarily through guarantees provided on the joint venture’s debt, we deferred $3.8 million of gain from the sale in the nine-month period ended July 31, 2018. We expect to recognize this deferred gain as the related guarantees expire.
Land sale revenues for the nine months ended July 31, 2017 include $143.3 million related to an in substance real estate sale transaction which resulted in a new Home Building Joint Venture in which we have a 20% interest. No gain or loss was realized on the sale. The deferred gains recognized in the fiscal 2017 periods relate to the sale of a property in fiscal 2015 to a Home Building Joint Venture in which we had a 25% interest. Due to our continued involvement in this unconsolidated entity through our ownership interest and guarantees provided on the entity’s debt, we deferred the $9.3 million gain realized on the sale. We recognized the gain as units were sold to the ultimate home buyers which is included in deferred gains recognized above. In the fourth quarter of fiscal 2017, we purchased the remaining inventory from this Home Building Joint Venture. The remaining unamortized deferred gain was used to reduce the basis of the inventory acquired.