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Loans Payable, Senior Notes, and Mortgage Company Loan Facility Loans Payable - other (Details 2) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2017
Oct. 31, 2016
Debt Instrument [Line Items]    
Other Loans Payable $ 139,116 $ 122,809
Debt, Weighted Average Interest Rate 4.11% 3.99%
Loans secured by assets [Abstract]    
Secured Debt $ 139,116 $ 122,570
Value of Assets Securing Loans $ 483,910 $ 461,162
Loans Payable Contractual Maturities Term Minimum 1 month  
Loans Payable Contractual Maturities Term Maximum 29 years  
Minimum [Member]    
Debt Instrument [Line Items]    
Debt Instrument, Interest Rate, Stated Percentage 1.11% 0.78%
Maximum [Member]    
Debt Instrument [Line Items]    
Debt Instrument, Interest Rate, Stated Percentage 7.87% 7.87%