Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 loan UPB vs FV) (Details 1) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	Apr. 30, 2017	Oct. 31, 2016
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net	$ 89,485	$ 248,601
Fair Value, Measurements, Recurring [Member] \| Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] \| Assets Held-for-sale [Member] \| Residential Mortgage [Member]
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale
Aggregate unpaid principal balance	88,731	246,794
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net	89,485	248,601
Fair Value, Option, Aggregate Differences, Loans and Long-term Receivables	$ 754	$ 1,807

Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale.

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This item represents the difference between the aggregate fair value and the aggregate unpaid principal balance of loans and long-term receivables (other than securities categorized as trading, available-for-sale or held-to-maturity) that have contractual principal amounts and for which the fair value option has been elected.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 825
-SubTopic 10
-Section 50
-Paragraph 28
-Subparagraph (d)(1)
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The face amount of loans that will be sold to other entities.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 310
-SubTopic 10
-Section 45
-Paragraph 2
-URI http://asc.fasb.org/extlink&oid=65884687&loc=d3e4428-111522

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The balance represents the amount of loans that are secured by real estate mortgages, offset by the reserve to cover probable credit losses on the loan portfolio.

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Reference 1: http://www.xbrl.org/2003/role/presentationRef
-Publisher FASB
-Name Accounting Standards Codification
-Topic 944
-SubTopic 210
-Section S99
-Paragraph 1
-Subparagraph (SX 210.7-03.1(c))
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