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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 inventory fv) (Details 3)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 12 Months Ended
Jan. 31, 2017
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2016
USD ($)
Jul. 31, 2016
USD ($)
Apr. 30, 2016
USD ($)
Jan. 31, 2016
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2016
USD ($)
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]            
Inventory Write-down $ 4,661       $ 1,281  
Operating communities [Member]            
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]            
Inventory Write-down $ 4,000         $ 8,365
Fair Value, Measurements, Nonrecurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 [Member] | Operating communities [Member]            
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]            
Number of Operating Communities Tested (in ones) 57 59 51 41 43  
Number of Communities Impaired (in ones) 2 2 2 2 2  
Fair Value Of Communities Net Of Impairment Charges $ 8,372 $ 1,126 $ 11,714 $ 10,103 $ 1,713 $ 1,126
Inventory Write-down $ 4,000 $ 415 $ 1,250 $ 6,100 $ 600