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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 loan UPB vs FV) (Details 1) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
Oct. 31, 2016
Oct. 31, 2015
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale    
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net $ 248,601 $ 123,175
Fair Value, Measurements, Recurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 2 [Member] | Assets Held-for-sale [Member] | Residential Mortgage [Member]    
Aggregate unpaid principal and fair value of mortgage loans held for sale    
Loans Receivable Held-for-sale, Amount 246,794 121,904
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net 248,601 123,175
Fair Value, Option, Aggregate Differences, Loans and Long-term Receivables $ 1,807 $ 1,271