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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 inventory fv) (Details 4)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended 12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2015
USD ($)
Jul. 31, 2015
USD ($)
Apr. 30, 2015
USD ($)
Jan. 31, 2015
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2014
USD ($)
Jul. 31, 2014
USD ($)
Apr. 30, 2014
USD ($)
Jan. 31, 2014
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2013
USD ($)
Jul. 31, 2013
USD ($)
Apr. 30, 2013
USD ($)
Jan. 31, 2013
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2015
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2014
USD ($)
Oct. 31, 2013
USD ($)
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]                              
Inventory impairments and write-offs                         $ 35,709 $ 20,678 $ 4,523
Fair Value, Measurements, Nonrecurring [Member] | Fair Value, Inputs, Level 3 [Member] | Operating communities [Member]                              
Fair Value, Balance Sheet Grouping, Financial Statement Captions [Line Items]                              
Number of Operating Communities Tested 44 40 52 58 55 63 65 67 63 76 79 60      
Number of Communities impaired 3 3 1 4 7 1 2 1 2 1 1 2      
Fair Value Of Communities Net Of Impairment Charges $ 8,726 $ 13,527 $ 16,235 $ 24,968 $ 38,473 $ 14,122 $ 6,211 $ 7,131 $ 6,798 $ 191 $ 749 $ 5,377 8,726 38,473 6,798
Inventory impairments and write-offs $ 4,300 $ 6,000 $ 11,100 $ 900 $ 9,855 $ 4,800 $ 1,600 $ 1,300 $ 2,200 $ 100 $ 340 $ 700 $ 22,300 $ 17,555 $ 3,340