Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 FV of Fin Instr) (Details) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	Jan. 31, 2013	Oct. 31, 2012
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net	$ 49,400	$ 86,386
Level 2 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Mortgage Loans on Real Estate, Commercial and Consumer, Net	49,400	86,386
Forward Loan Commitments - Residential Mortgage Loans Held for Sale [Member] \| Level 2 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Fair value of commitments	649	(102)
Interest Rate Lock Commitments [Member] \| Level 2 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Fair value of commitments	(1,345)	(202)
Forward Loan Commitments [Member] \| Level 2 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Fair value of commitments	1,345	202
Corporate Securities [Member] \| Level 2 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Fair value of securities	246,487	260,772
Certificates of Deposit [Member] \| Level 2 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Fair value of securities	148,105	148,112
Tax exempt Bond Fund [Member] \| Level 1 [Member]
Summary of assets and (liabilities), measured at fair value on a recurring basis
Fair value of securities	$ 30,227	$ 30,184

This element represents the portion of the balance sheet assertion valued at fair value by the entity whether such amount is presented as a separate caption or as a parenthetical disclosure. Additionally, this element may be used in connection with the fair value disclosures required in the footnote disclosures to the financial statements. The element may be used in both the balance sheet and disclosure in the same submission. This item represents commitments outstanding as of the balance sheet date which obligate or represent potential claims against the assets of the Company relating to, for example, the extension of credit. Further, commitments generally represent off balance sheet arrangements that obligate the entity to deliver assets or services or enter into another obligation in the future.

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This element represents the portion of the balance sheet assertion valued at fair value by the entity whether such amount is presented as a separate caption or as a parenthetical disclosure. Additionally, this element may be used in connection with the fair value disclosures required in the footnote disclosures to the financial statements. The element may be used in both the balance sheet and disclosure in the same submission. This item represents investment securities as of the balance sheet date which may include marketable securities, derivative financial instruments, and investments accounted for under the equity method.

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