Income Taxes Income Taxes 4 (Details) (USD $)	Oct. 31, 2012	Oct. 31, 2011
Components of Deferred Tax Assets and Liabilities [Abstract]
Deferred Tax Assets Accrued Expenses	$ 57,734,000	$ 59,411,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Tax Deferred Expense, Reserves and Accruals, Impairment Losses	319,818,000	368,459,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Inventory	29,288,000	30,802,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Tax Deferred Expense, Compensation and Benefits, Share-based Compensation Cost	44,336,000	38,454,000
Deferred Tax Asset Unrecognized Tax Benefits	36,934,000	47,387,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Operating Loss Carryforwards, State and Local	50,006,000	52,323,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Operating Loss Carryforwards, Federal	25,170,000	11,232,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Other	20,169,000	11,783,000
Deferred Tax Assets, Gross	583,455,000	619,851,000
Deferred Tax Liabilities, Deferred Expense, Capitalized Interest	102,713,000	84,915,000
Deferred Tax Liabilities, Tax Deferred Income	6,608,000	7,771,000
Deferred tax liability, expenses taken for tax not for book	36,811,000	58,502,000
Deferred Tax Liabilities, Property, Plant and Equipment	3,994,000	2,344,000
Deferred Tax Liabilities Marketing	18,229,000	14,557,000
Deferred Tax Liabilities, Gross	168,355,000	168,089,000
Deferred Tax Assets Liabilities Gross	415,100,000	451,762,000
Deferred Tax Assets Cumulative Valuation Allowance State	(57,044,000)	(89,142,000)
Deferred Tax Assets Cumulative Valuation Allowance Federal		(362,620,000)
Deferred Tax Assets, Net	358,056,000	0
Prior year deferred tax asset adjustment		24,400,000
Prior year deferred tax valuation allowance adjustment		$ 24,400,000