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Fair Value Disclosures (Level 4 marketable securities) (Details 2) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2012
Oct. 31, 2011
Fair Value Disclosures (Textual) [Abstract]    
Available-for-sale Securities, Debt Maturity, Date Range, Low 2 months  
Available-for-sale Securities, Debt Maturity, Date Range, High 15 months  
Summary of amortized cost gross unrealized holding gains and losses    
Amortized cost $ 218,558 $ 233,852
Gross unrealized holding gains 14 28
Gross unrealized holding losses (138) (308)
Fair value $ 218,434 $ 233,572