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Employee Retirement Plans (Details) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
3 Months Ended 6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2012
Apr. 30, 2011
Apr. 30, 2012
Apr. 30, 2011
Costs and payments related to supplemental retirement plans        
Service cost $ 97 $ 76 $ 194 $ 153
Interest cost 303 323 606 645
Amortization of prior service obligation 184 173 369 347
Amortization of unrecognized losses 17    33   
Total costs 601 572 1,202 1,145
Benefits paid $ 110 $ 29 $ 225 $ 62