0001019687-14-000676.txt : 20140304 0001019687-14-000676.hdr.sgml : 20140304 20140303191843 ACCESSION NUMBER: 0001019687-14-000676 CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE: 8-K PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT: 4 CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT: 20140303 ITEM INFORMATION: Results of Operations and Financial Condition ITEM INFORMATION: Financial Statements and Exhibits FILED AS OF DATE: 20140304 DATE AS OF CHANGE: 20140303 FILER: COMPANY DATA: COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: RadNet, Inc. CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0000790526 STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: SERVICES-MEDICAL LABORATORIES [8071] IRS NUMBER: 133326724 STATE OF INCORPORATION: DE FISCAL YEAR END: 1231 FILING VALUES: FORM TYPE: 8-K SEC ACT: 1934 Act SEC FILE NUMBER: 001-33307 FILM NUMBER: 14662181 BUSINESS ADDRESS: STREET 1: 1516 COTNER AVE CITY: LOS ANGELES STATE: CA ZIP: 90025 BUSINESS PHONE: 3104787808 MAIL ADDRESS: STREET 1: 1516 COTNER AVE CITY: LOS ANGELES STATE: CA ZIP: 90025 FORMER COMPANY: FORMER CONFORMED NAME: PRIMEDEX HEALTH SYSTEMS INC DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19930518 FORMER COMPANY: FORMER CONFORMED NAME: CCC FRANCHISING CORP DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19920703 8-K 1 radnet_8k.htm CURRENT REPORT

 

UNITED STATES

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

Washington, D.C. 20549

 

FORM 8-K

 

CURRENT REPORT

Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): March 3, 2014

 

RADNET, Inc.

(Exact name of registrant as specified in its Charter)

 

Delaware   0-19019   13-3326724
(State or Other Jurisdiction of Incorporation)   (Commission File Number)   (IRS Employer Identification No.)

 

1510 Cotner Avenue
Los Angeles, California 90025
(Address of Principal Executive Offices) (Zip Code)

 

(310) 478-7808
(Registrant’s Telephone Number, Including Area Code)

 

Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions:

[   ] Written communications pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act (17 CFR 230.425)

[   ] Soliciting material pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14a-12)

[   ] Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 14d-2(b) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14d-2(b) )

[   ] Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 13e-4(c) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.13e-4(c) )

 

 

 
 

 

Item 2.02     RESULTS OF OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL CONDITION

 

On March 3, 2014 RadNet, Inc. (“RadNet”) issued a press release and held a conference call regarding our financial results for the quarter and year ended December 31, 2013 and our proposed refinancing of our $200 Million 10 3/8% Senior Unsecured Notes. A copy of the press release is furnished as Exhibit 99.1 and a copy of the transcript of the conference call is furnished as Exhibit 99.2 to this Current Report.

 

The information in this Current Report, including Exhibit 99.1 and Exhibit 99.2 is being furnished and shall not be deemed “filed” for purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 or otherwise subject to the liabilities of that Section. The information in this Current Report, including Exhibit 99.1 and Exhibit 99.2 shall not be incorporated by reference into any registration statement or other document filed with the Commission.

 

Item 9.01     FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND EXHIBITS.

 

(d) Exhibits

 

Exhibit Number Description of Exhibit
   
99.1 Press Release dated March 3, 2014 relating to RadNet, Inc.’s financial results for the quarter and year ended December 31, 2013 and proposed refinancing of $200 Million 10 3/8% Senior Unsecured Notes.
   
99.2 Transcript of conference call.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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SIGNATURE

 

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the Registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.

 

Date:  March 3, 2014 RADNET, INC.
   
 

By: /s/ Jeffrey L. Linden

Name: Jeffrey L. Linden
Title: Executive Vice President and General Counsel

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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EXHIBIT INDEX

 

Exhibit No. Description
   
99.1 Press Release dated March 3, 2014
   
99.2 Transcript of conference call.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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EX-99.1 2 radnet_8k-ex9901.htm PRESS RELEASE

EXHIBIT 99.1 

 

New Radnet Logo - Color

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

 

RadNet Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2013 Results, Releases 2014 Financial Guidance and Announces a Proposed Refinancing Transaction of its $200 million 10 3/8% Senior Unsecured Notes

 

·For the fourth quarter, RadNet reports Total Net Revenue (“Revenue”) of $178.3 million and Adjusted EBITDA(1)of $31.9 million, increases of 11.9% and 30.0%, respectively, over the prior year’s fourth quarter
·Net Income for the fourth quarter was $0.03 per diluted share, compared to a Net Loss of $(0.10) per share in the fourth quarter of 2012 (excluding the one-time $55.9 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized in the fourth quarter of 2012)
·For the year, RadNet reports annual Revenue of $703.0 million and annual Adjusted EBITDA([1])of $112.8 million; Revenue increased 8.6% and Adjusted EBITDA(1) decreased 0.7% from 2012
·Annual results exceeded the high-end of the revised 2013 guidance ranges for Revenue and Adjusted EBITDA(1)
·RadNet announces 2014 guidance ranges, which anticipates stability in Revenue and Adjusted EBTDA(1) despite the previously announced Medicare reimbursement cuts
·RadNet announces a proposed refinancing transaction to replace its existing $200 million of 10 3/8% Senior Unsecured Notes with a Second Lien Term Loan and additional borrowings

 

LOS ANGELES, California, March 3, 2014 – RadNet, Inc. (NASDAQ: RDNT), a national leader in providing high-quality, cost-effective, fixed-site outpatient diagnostic imaging services through a network of 250 owned and/or operated outpatient imaging centers, today reported financial results for its fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2013.

 

Financial Results

 

Fourth Quarter Report:

 

For the fourth quarter of 2013, RadNet reported Revenue, Adjusted EBITDA(1) and Net Income of $178.3 million, $31.9 million and $1.2 million, respectively. Revenue increased $19.0 million (or 11.9%), Adjusted EBITDA(1) increased $7.3 million (or 30.0%) and Net Income increased $5.2 million over the fourth quarter of 2012 (excluding the $55.9 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized in the fourth quarter of 2012).

 

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Net Income for the fourth quarter was $0.03 per diluted share, compared to a Net Loss of $(0.10) per share in the fourth quarter of 2012 (again adjusting for the $55.9 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized in the fourth quarter of 2012). These per share values are based upon a weighted average number of diluted shares outstanding of 39.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2013 and 38.3 million of basic shares outstanding in the fourth quarter of 2012.

 

Affecting Net Income in the fourth quarter of 2013 were certain non-cash expenses and non-recurring items including: $529,000 of non-cash employee stock compensation expense resulting from the vesting of certain options, warrants and restricted stock; $494,000 of severance paid in connection with headcount reductions related to cost savings initiatives; $675,000 loss on the disposal of certain capital equipment; and $1.2 million of amortization of deferred financing fees and discount on issuance of debt related to our existing credit facilities and 10 3/8% senior unsecured notes.

 

For the fourth quarter of 2013, as compared with the prior year’s fourth quarter, MRI volume increased 16.8%, CT volume increased 5.0% and PET/CT volume decreased 4.7%. Overall volume, taking into account routine imaging exams, inclusive of x-ray, ultrasound, mammography and other exams, increased 12.2% over the prior year’s fourth quarter. On a same-center basis, including only those centers which were part of RadNet for both the fourth quarters of 2013 and 2012, MRI volume increased 5.5%, CT volume decreased 1.7% and PET/CT volume decreased 1.0%. Overall same-center volume, taking into account routine imaging exams, inclusive of x-ray, ultrasound, mammography and other exams, increased 2.4% over the prior year’s same quarter.

 

Dr. Howard Berger, President and Chief Executive Officer of RadNet, commented “We are very pleased with our fourth quarter performance. As compared with the prior year’s fourth quarter performance, we had significant increases in aggregate Revenue and Adjusted EBITDA(1) and same center revenue and procedural volumes. Although on a comparison basis we were benefited by the impact of Hurricane Sandy in 2012’s fourth quarter, we experienced increasing volumes in the fourth quarter as compared to the prior quarters in 2013. While we cannot determine with certainty why volumes improved, we believe we may have benefited from the impact of increased procedures from patients in large-deductible health plans who sought to utilize medical services prior to these deductibles resetting in 2014. Also, we noted additional patient volume in our centers from those who were early enrollees in health exchanges under the Healthcare Reform Act. The strength of our 2013 fourth quarter provides us confidence about our business as we enter 2014.”

 

Annual Report:

 

For full year 2013, the Company reported Revenue, Adjusted EBITDA(1) and Net Income of $703.0 million, $112.8 million and $2.1 million, respectively. Revenue increased $55.8 million (or 8.6%), Adjusted EBITDA(1) decreased $759,000 (or 0.7%) and Net Income decreased $2.5 million (excluding the $55.2 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized during 2012), respectively, from full year 2012 results. Net Income for 2013 was $0.05 per diluted share, compared to Net Income of $0.12 per diluted share in 2012 (based upon a weighted average number of diluted shares outstanding of 39.8 million and 39.2 million in 2013 and 2012, respectively and after excluding the $55.2 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized during 2012).

 

Affecting Net Income in 2013 were certain non-cash expenses and non-recurring items including: $2.6 million of non-cash employee stock compensation expense resulting from the vesting of certain options, warrants and restricted stock; $806,000 of severance paid in connection with headcount reductions related to cost savings initiatives; $1.0 million loss on the disposal of certain capital equipment; $2.1 million gain on the sale of imaging centers; and $4.6 million of amortization of deferred financing fees and discount on issuance of debt related to our existing credit facilities and 10 3/8% senior unsecured notes.

 

For the year ended December 31, 2013, as compared to 2012, MRI volume increased 12.2%, CT volume increased 1.2% and PET/CT volume decreased 2.4%. Overall volume, taking into account routine imaging exams, inclusive of x-ray, ultrasound, mammography and other exams, increased 9.3% for the twelve months of 2013 over 2012.

 

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Actual 2013 Results vs. 2013 Revised Guidance:

 

The following compares the Company’s actual 2013 performance with previously announced revised guidance levels.

 

  Guidance Range Actual Results
Guidance Revenue (a) $700 million - $730 million $730.9 million
Adjusted EBITDA(1) $105 million - $110 million $112.8 million
Capital Expenditures (b) $35 million - $40 million $41.4 million
Cash Interest Expense $40 million - $43 million $41.8 million
Free Cash Flow Generation (c)

$20 million - $30 million

$29.6 million

 

(a)Service Fee Revenue, net of contractual allowances plus Revenue under capitation arrangements.
(b)Net of proceeds from the sale of equipment, imaging centers and joint venture interests.
(c)Defined by the Company as Adjusted EBITDA(1) less total capital expenditures and cash paid for interest.

 

Dr. Berger commented, “Our fourth quarter performance was stronger than that which was projected when we issued our revised full year 2013 guidance levels. As a result, we exceeded the high-end of our Revenue and EBITDA guidance levels. With respect to Free Cash Flow generation, I am also pleased that our actual results were at the top of our guidance range.”

 

2014 Fiscal Year Guidance

 

For its 2014 fiscal year, RadNet announces its guidance ranges as follows:

   
Revenue (a) $700 million - $730 million
Adjusted EBITDA(1) $110 million - $120 million
Capital Expenditures (b) $40 million - $45 million
Cash Interest Expense $38 million - $42 million
Free Cash Flow Generation (c)

$30 million - $40 million

 

(a)Service Fee Revenue, net of contractual allowances plus Revenue under capitation arrangements.
(b)Net of proceeds from the sale of equipment, imaging centers and joint venture interests.
(c)Defined by the Company as Adjusted EBITDA(1) less total capital expenditures and cash paid for interest.

 

“As reflected in our 2014 guidance, we are optimistic about 2014. In December of last year, we announced a $20 million-$22 million negative impact to our 2014 revenue from the changes in the Medicare Physician Fee Schedule. In response to this, we launched a plan to eliminate $30 million of costs from our business. Our 2014 guidance reflects our confidence in achieving at least $20 million of these costs savings in 2014,” added Dr. Berger.

 

Dr. Berger continued, “Our guidance also incorporates what we are projecting to be a soft first quarter in 2014 due to the unusually severe winter weather conditions that have existed in the northeastern part of the United States in January and February of this year.”

 

Proposed Refinancing Transaction

 

The Company currently intends to pursue a refinancing of its 10 3/8% Senior Unsecured Notes due 2018. The proposed refinancing may include a tender offer for, or redemption of, the Company’s senior unsecured notes, which would be replaced by new senior secured second lien term loan debt and additional indebtedness under the Company’s senior secured first lien credit facility.

 

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The potential refinancing transaction would be subject to negotiations with current lenders for the Company’s senior secured debt and market and other conditions. As such, there can be no assurance that the Company will complete a refinancing transaction on terms that are favorable to the Company or its investors. The Company may engage from time to time in discussions with creditors of the Company and holders of the senior unsecured notes, as well as their respective advisors, as the Company pursues such potential refinancing transaction.

 

Mark Stolper, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of RadNet, commented “We have publicly discussed in recent quarters the possibility of lowering our cost of capital through refinancing our 10 3/8% Senior Unsecured Notes with less expensive capital. After having consulted with our investment banking advisors, we expect to launch a refinancing transaction designed to replace our Senior Unsecured Notes with a Second Lien Term Loan and additional borrowings under our existing credit facility, subject to market and other conditions. Our objective is to lower our cash interest obligations, provide us with additional operating flexibility and lengthen the maturity of our most junior debt capital. If successful, we currently expect to consummate a transaction in April.”

 

Conference Call for Today

 

Dr. Howard Berger, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Stolper, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will host a conference call today, at 10:30 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. During the call, management will discuss the Company's 2013 fourth quarter and year-end results.

 

Conference Call Details:

 

Date: Monday, March 3, 2014

Time: 10:30 a.m. EST

Dial In-Number: 888-710-4015

International Dial-In Number: 913-312-1437

 

There will also be simultaneous and archived webcasts available at http://public.viavid.com/index.php?id=108012 or http://www.radnet.com under the “Investors” menu section and “News Releases” sub-menu of the website. An archived replay of the call will also be available and can be accessed by dialing 877-870-5176 from the U.S., or 858-384-5517 for international callers, and using the passcode 2931150.

 

Regulation G: GAAP and Non-GAAP Financial Information

 

This release contains certain financial information not reported in accordance with GAAP. The Company uses both GAAP and non-GAAP metrics to measure its financial results. The Company believes that, in addition to GAAP metrics, these non-GAAP metrics assist the Company in measuring its cash-based performance. The Company believes this information is useful to investors and other interested parties because it removes unusual and nonrecurring charges that occur in the affected period and provides a basis for measuring the Company's financial condition against other quarters. Such information should not be considered as a substitute for any measures calculated in accordance with GAAP, and may not be comparable to other similarly titled measures of other companies. Non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered in isolation from, or as a substitute for, financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation of this information to the most comparable GAAP measures is included in this release in the tables which follow.

 

About RadNet, Inc.

 

RadNet, Inc. is the leading national provider of freestanding, fixed-site diagnostic imaging services in the United States based on the number of locations and annual imaging revenue. RadNet has a network of 250 owned and/or operated outpatient imaging centers. RadNet's core markets include California, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. Together with affiliated radiologists, and inclusive of full-time and per diem employees and technicians, RadNet has a total of approximately 6,300 employees. For more information, visit http://www.radnet.com.

 

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Forward Looking Statements

 

This press release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Specifically, statements concerning successfully integrating the Company’s acquired operations, successfully achieving 2014 financial guidance, achieving cost savings, successfully developing and integrating its information technology operations as well as new lines of business, continuing to grow its business by generating patient referrals and contracts with radiology practices, receiving third-party reimbursement for diagnostic imaging services and successfully completing its intended refinancing of its $200 million 10 3/8% senior unsecured notes are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor. Forward-looking statements are based on management's current, preliminary expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause the Company's actual results to differ materially from the statements contained herein. Further information on potential risk factors that could affect RadNet's business and its financial results are detailed in its most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K, as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Undue reliance should not be placed on forward-looking statements, especially guidance on future financial performance, which speak only as of the date they are made. RadNet undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements to reflect new information, events or circumstances after the date they were made, or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

 

 

CONTACTS:

 

RadNet, Inc.

 

Mark Stolper, 310-445-2800

 

Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RADNET, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES

CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS

(IN THOUSANDS EXCEPT SHARE DATA)

 

   December 31,   December 31, 
   2013   2012 
         
ASSETS
CURRENT ASSETS          
Cash and cash equivalents  $8,412   $362 
Accounts receivable, net   133,599    129,194 
Current portion of deferred tax assets   13,321    7,607 
Prepaid expenses and other current assets   21,012    18,737 
Total current assets   176,344    155,900 
PROPERTY AND EQUIPMENT, NET   218,547    216,560 
OTHER ASSETS          
Goodwill   196,395    193,871 
Other intangible assets   50,042    51,674 
Deferred financing costs, net of current portion   8,735    11,977 
Investment in joint ventures   28,949    28,598 
Deferred tax assets, net of current portion   39,914    48,535 
Deposits and other   3,650    3,749 
Total assets  $722,576   $710,864 
 
LIABILITIES AND STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY (DEFICIT)
CURRENT LIABILITIES          
Accounts payable, accrued expenses and other  $106,316   $106,357 
Due to affiliates   2,655    1,602 
Deferred revenue   1,344    1,273 
Current portion of notes payable   3,103    4,703 
Current portion of deferred rent   1,896    1,164 
Current portion of obligations under capital leases   3,075    3,942 
Total current liabilities   118,389    119,041 
LONG-TERM LIABILITIES          
Deferred rent, net of current portion   18,989    15,850 
Line of credit       33,000 
Notes payable, net of current portion   572,669    537,009 
Obligations under capital lease, net of current portion   2,779    3,753 
Other non-current liabilities   7,540    8,895 
Total liabilities   720,366    717,548 
           
STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY (DEFICIT)          
Common stock - $.0001 par value, 200,000,000 shares authorized; 40,089,196, and 38,540,482 shares issued and outstanding at December 31, 2013 and 2012, respectively   4    4 
Paid-in-capital   173,622    168,415 
Accumulated other comprehensive (loss) income   (50)   39 
Accumulated deficit   (173,656)   (175,776)
Total RadNet, Inc.'s stockholders' equity deficit   (80)   (7,318)
Noncontrolling interests   2,290    634 
Total stockholders' equity (deficit)   2,210    (6,684)
Total liabilities and stockholders' equity  $722,576   $710,864 

 

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CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS

(IN THOUSANDS EXCEPT SHARE DATA)

 

  Years Ended December 31, 
   2013   2012   2011 
NET REVENUE               
Service fee revenue, net of contractual allowances and discounts  $665,307   $617,982   $554,979 
Provision for bad debts   (27,911)   (25,904)   (22,339)
Net service fee revenue   637,396    592,078    532,640 
Revenue under capitation arrangements   65,590    55,075    52,481 
Total net revenue   702,986    647,153    585,121 
OPERATING EXPENSES               
Cost of operations, excluding depreciation and amortization   598,655    542,993    477,828 
Depreciation and amortization   58,890    57,740    57,481 
Loss (gain) on sale and disposal of equipment   1,032    456    (2,240)
Severance costs   806    736    1,391 
Total operating expenses   659,383    601,925    534,460 
INCOME FROM OPERATIONS   43,603    45,228    50,661 
OTHER INCOME AND EXPENSES               
Interest expense   45,791    53,783    52,798 
Equity in earnings of joint ventures   (6,194)   (6,476)   (5,224)
Gain on sale of imaging centers   (2,108)        
Gain on de-consolidation of joint venture       (2,777)    
Other expenses (income)   228    (3,679)   (5,075)
Total other expenses   37,717    40,851    42,499 
INCOME BEFORE INCOME TAXES   5,886    4,377    8,162 
(Provision for) benefit from income taxes   (3,510)   55,227    (820)
NET INCOME   2,376    59,604    7,342 
Net (loss) income attributable to noncontrolling interests   256    (230)   111 
NET INCOME ATTRIBUTABLE TO RADNET, INC. COMMON STOCKHOLDERS  $2,120   $59,834   $7,231 
                
BASIC NET INCOME PER SHARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO RADNET, INC. COMMON STOCKHOLDERS  $0.05   $1.58   $0.19 
                
DILUTED NET INCOME PER SHARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO RADNET, INC. COMMON STOCKHOLDERS  $0.05   $1.52   $0.19 
                
WEIGHTED AVERAGE SHARES OUTSTANDING               
                
Basic   39,140,480    37,751,170    37,367,736 
                
Diluted   39,814,535    39,244,686    38,785,675 

 

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CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS (IN THOUSANDS)

 

   Years Ended December 31, 
   2013   2012   2011 
CASH FLOWS FROM OPERATING ACTIVITIES               
Net income  $2,376   $59,604   $7,342 
Adjustments to reconcile net income to net cash provided by operating activities:               
Depreciation and amortization   58,890    57,740    57,481 
Provision for bad debts   27,911    25,904    22,339 
Equity in earnings of joint ventures   (6,194)   (6,476)   (5,224)
Distributions from joint ventures   7,204    6,477    4,993 
Deferred rent amortization   3,871    3,608    2,282 
Amortization of deferred financing cost   2,286    2,474    2,940 
Amortization of bond and term loan discounts   2,279    1,163    244 
Loss (gain) on sale and disposal of equipment   1,032    456    (2,240)
Gain on bargain purchase       (810)    
Gain on Sale of Imaging Centers   (2,108)        
Gain on de-consolidation of joint venture       (2,777)    
Amortization of cash flow hedge       918    1,225 
Stock-based compensation   2,574    2,736    3,110 
Changes in operating assets and liabilities, net of assets acquired and liabilities assumed in purchase transactions:               
Accounts receivable   (31,531)   (17,350)   (45,014)
Other current assets   (2,243)   3,565    (3,935)
Other assets   260    (578)   43 
Deferred taxes   2,907    (56,142)    
Deferred revenue   71    197    (492)
Accounts payable and accrued expenses   (3,163)   (5,440)   12,542 
Net cash provided by operating activities   66,422    75,269    57,636 
CASH FLOWS FROM INVESTING ACTIVITIES               
Purchase of imaging facilities   (7,223)   (45,493)   (42,990)
Purchase of property and equipment   (48,623)   (44,448)   (42,720)
Proceeds from sale of equipment   635    1,549    325 
Proceeds from insurance claims on damaged equipment           2,740 
Proceeds from sale of imaging facilities   3,920    2,300     
Proceeds from sale of joint venture interests   2,640    1,800     
Purchase of equity interest in joint ventures   (2,009)   (2,756)   (5,094)
Net cash used in investing activities   (50,660)   (87,048)   (87,739)
CASH FLOWS FROM FINANCING ACTIVITIES               
Principal payments on notes and leases payable   (9,764)   (22,223)   (18,756)
Proceeds from borrowings upon refinancing   35,122    344,485     
Repayment of debt       (277,875)    
Deferred financing costs   (432)   (3,753)   (944)
Proceeds from, net of payments on, line of credit   (33,000)   (25,000)   58,000 
Payments to counterparties of interest rate swaps, net of amounts received       (5,823)   (6,455)
Distributions to noncontrolling interests   (18)   (71)   (154)
Equity attributable to non-controlling interests       (117)    
Proceeds from issuance of common stock upon exercise of options/warrants   469        242 
Net cash (used in) provided by financing activities   (7,623)   9,623    31,933 
EFFECT OF EXCHANGE RATE CHANGES ON CASH   (89)   63    (2)
NET INCREASE (DECREASE) IN CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS   8,050    (2,093)   1,828 
CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS, beginning of period   362    2,455    627 
CASH AND CASH EQUIVALENTS, end of period  $8,412   $362   $2,455 
                
SUPPLEMENTAL DISCLOSURE OF CASH FLOW INFORMATION               
Cash paid during the period for interest  $41,841   $47,806   $47,310 
Cash paid during the period for income taxes  $1,142   $918   $514 

 

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CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS

(IN THOUSANDS EXCEPT SHARE DATA)

 

  Three Months Ended December 31, 
   2013   2012 
NET REVENUE          
Service fee revenue, net of contractual allowances and discounts  $168,883   $151,369 
Provision for bad debts   (7,101)   (6,451)
Net service fee revenue   161,782    144,918 
Revenue under capitation arrangements   16,556    14,415 
Total net revenue   178,338    159,333 
OPERATING EXPENSES          
Cost of operations, excluding depreciation and amortization   148,625    137,816 
Depreciation and amortization   14,840    14,586 
Loss (gain) on sale and disposal of equipment   675    201 
Severance costs   494    58 
Total operating expenses   164,634    152,661 
           
INCOME FROM OPERATIONS   13,704    6,672 
           
OTHER INCOME AND EXPENSES          
Interest expense   11,249    12,866 
Equity in earnings of joint ventures   (1,713)   (2,319)
Gain on sale of imaging centers        
Gain on de-consolidation of joint venture        
Other (income) expenses   76    172 
           
Total other expenses   9,612    10,719 
           
INCOME (LOSS) BEFORE INCOME TAXES   4,092    (4,047)
(Provision for) benefit from income taxes   (2,744)   55,923 
NET INCOME   1,348    51,876 
Net income (loss) attributable to noncontrolling interests   105    (70)
NET INCOME ATTRIBUTABL TO RADNET, INC.E TO RADNET, INC. COMMON STOCKHOLDERS  $1,243   $51,946 
           
BASIC NET INCOME PER SHARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO RADNET, INC. COMMON STOCKHOLDERS  $0.03   $1.35 
           
DILUTED NET INCOME PER SHARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO RADNET, INC. COMMON STOCKHOLDERS  $0.03   $1.31 
           
WEIGHTED AVERAGE SHARES OUTSTANDING          
           
Basic   39,243,922    38,348,541 
           
Diluted   39,598,285    39,796,132 

 

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RADNET, INC.

RECONCILIATION OF GAAP NET INCOME (LOSS) ATTRIBUTABLE TO RADNET, INC. COMMON SHAREHOLDERS TO ADJUSTED EBITDA(1)

(IN THOUSANDS)

 

  Three Months Ended 
  December 31, 
   2013   2012 
Net Income Attributable to RadNet, Inc. Common Stockholders  $1,243   $51,946 
Plus Provision for (Benefit From) Income Taxes   2,744    (55,923)
Plus Other Expenses   76    172 
Plus Interest Expense   11,249    12,866 
Plus Severence Costs   494    58 
Plus Loss on Sale of Equipment   675    201 
Plus Depreciation and Amortization   14,840    14,586 
Plus Non Cash Employee Stock Compensation   529    597 
Adjusted EBITDA(1)  $31,850   $24,503 

 

 

  Fiscal Year Ended 
  December 31, 
   2013   2012 
Net Income Attributable to RadNet, Inc. Common Stockholders  $2,120   $59,834 
Plus Provision for (Benefit From) Income Taxes   3,510    (55,227)
Plus Other Expenses (Income)   228    (3,679)
Plus Interest Expense   45,791    53,783 
Plus Severence Costs   806    736 
Plus Loss on Sale of Equipment   1,032    456 
Plus Loss (Gain) on Sale of Imaging Centers   (2,108)    
Plus Depreciation and Amortization   58,890    57,740 
Plus Loss (Gain) on Deconsolidation of Joint Venture       (2,777)
Plus Non Cash Employee Stock Compensation   2,574    2,736 
Adjusted EBITDA(1)  $112,843   $113,602 

 

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PAYOR CLASS BREAKDOWN**

    Fourth Quarter 
    2013 
      
Commercial Insurance   58.2%
Medicare   23.3%
Capitation   9.3%
Workers Compensation/Personal Injury   3.9%
Medicaid   3.1%
Other   2.1%
Total   100.0%

 

**Capitation percentage has been calculated based upon its proportion of cash received in the period to total accrued revenue. After deducting the capitation percentage from 100%, all other payor class percentages are based upon a proportion to global paymnents received from consolidated imaging centers from that periods dates of services and excludes payments from hospital contracts, Breastlink, imaging center management fees, eRAD, Imaging on Call and other miscellaneous revenue.

 

RADNET PAYMENTS BY MODALITY *

 

   Fourth Quarter   Full Year   Full Year   Full Year   Full Year 
   2013   2013   2012   2011   2010 
                          
MRI   36.7%   36.3%   35.5%   35.1%   34.3%
CT   15.5%   15.5%   16.0%   16.1%   17.5%
PET/CT   5.4%   5.6%   5.9%   6.0%   6.1%
X-ray   10.5%   10.5%   10.3%   10.1%   10.1%
Ultrasound   10.9%   11.0%   10.9%   10.9%   11.0%
Mammography   15.8%   15.7%   16.0%   15.9%   16.0%
Nuclear Medicine   1.4%   1.5%   1.5%   1.6%   1.7%
Other   3.9%   3.9%   4.0%   4.2%   3.2%
    100.0%   100.0%   100.0%   100.0%   100.0%

 

Note

* Based upon global payments received from consolidated Imaging Centers from that year's dates of service.

Excludes payments from hospital contracts, Breastlink, Center Management Fees and other miscellaneous operating activities.

* ARS/TII included in 2012 figures.

* Lennox Hill Radiology included in 2013 figures.

 

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Footnotes

 

(1) The Company defines Adjusted EBITDA as earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, each from continuing operations and excludes losses or gains on the disposal of equipment, other income or loss, loss on debt extinguishments, bargain purchase gains and non-cash equity compensation. Adjusted EBITDA includes equity earnings in unconsolidated operations and subtracts allocations of earnings to non-controlling interests in subsidiaries, and is adjusted for non-cash or extraordinary and one-time events taken place during the period.

 

Adjusted EBITDA is reconciled to its nearest comparable GAAP financial measure. Adjusted EBITDA is a non-GAAP financial measure used as analytical indicator by RadNet management and the healthcare industry to assess business performance, and is a measure of leverage capacity and ability to service debt. Adjusted EBITDA should not be considered a measure of financial performance under GAAP, and the items excluded from Adjusted EBITDA should not be considered in isolation or as alternatives to net income, cash flows generated by operating, investing or financing activities or other financial statement data presented in the consolidated financial statements as an indicator of financial performance or liquidity. As Adjusted EBITDA is not a measurement determined in accordance with GAAP and is therefore susceptible to varying methods of calculation, this metric, as presented, may not be comparable to other similarly titled measures of other companies.

 

(2) As noted above, the Company defines Free Cash Flow as Adjusted EBITDA less total Capital Expenditures (whether completed with cash or financed) and Cash Interest paid. Free Cash Flow is a non-GAAP financial measure. The Company uses Free Cash Flow because the Company believes it provides useful information for investors and management because it measures our capacity to generate cash from our operating activities. Free Cash Flow does not represent total cash flow since it does not include the cash flows generated by or used in financing activities. In addition, our definition of Free Cash Flow may differ from definitions used by other companies.

 

Free Cash Flow should not be considered a measure of financial performance under GAAP, and the items excluded from Adjusted EBITDA should not be considered in isolation or as alternatives to net income, cash flows generated by operating, investing or financing activities or other financial statement data presented in the consolidated financial statements as an indicator of financial performance or liquidity. As Adjusted EBITDA is not a measurement determined in accordance with GAAP and is therefore susceptible to varying methods of calculation, this metric, as presented, may not be comparable to other similarly titled measures of other companies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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EX-99.2 3 radnet_8k-ex9902.htm TRANSCRIPT OF CONFERENCE CALL

EXHIBIT 99.2

 

Transcript of conference call.

 

RadNet, Inc.

Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2013 Financial Results Conference Call

March 3, 2014

 

Operator:   Good day, everyone, and welcome to the RadNet Incorporate Fourth Quarter 2013 Financial Results conference. Today’s call is being recorded.

 

At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mark Stolper, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of RadNet Incorporated. Please go ahead.

 

Mark Stolper:   Good morning. Thank you. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining Dr. Howard Berger and me today to discuss RadNet’s fourth quarter and full year 2013 financial results.

 

Before we begin today, we’d like to remind everyone of the Safe Harbor statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. This presentation contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Specifically, statements concerning anticipated future financial and operating performance, RadNet’s ability to continue to grow the business by generating patient referrals and contracts with radiology practices, recruiting and retaining technologists, receiving third party reimbursement for diagnostic imaging services, successfully integrating acquired operations, generating revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the acquired operation as estimated, and our ability to complete a successful refinancing transaction of our senior unsecured notes, among others, are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor. Forward-looking statements are based upon management’s current preliminary expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties which may cause RadNet’s actual results to differ materially from the statements contained herein. These risks and uncertainties include those risks set forth in RadNet’s reports filed with the SEC from time to time, including RadNet’s annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2013, to be filed in the coming weeks.

 

Undue reliance should not be placed on forward-looking statements, especially guidance on future financial performance, which speaks only as of the date it is made. RadNet undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements to reflect new information, events or circumstances after the date they were made or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

 

And with that, I’d like to turn the call over to Dr. Berger.

 

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Dr. Howard Berger:   Thank you, Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. On today’s call, Mark Stolper and I plan to provide you with highlights from our fourth quarter and full year 2013 results, give you more insight into factors which affected this performance and discuss our future strategy. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call to your questions. I’d like to thank all of you for your interest in our Company and for dedicating a portion of your day to participate in our conference call this morning.

 

I am very pleased with our performance in the fourth quarter and how we are positioned for 2014. Simply put, our fourth quarter performance surpassed our own internal projections, resulting in our exceeding the high end of our revised guidance ranges for full year revenue and EBITDA. During the quarter, we experienced aggregate and same-center revenue and procedural growth relative to last year’s fourth quarter, and more importantly, we showed significant sequential operating improvement as compared to the prior three quarters of 2013. We accomplished this both through driving incremental revenue and procedures, as well as expense management as we began to execute on our previously-announced initiatives to eliminate 30 million of operating expenses from our business.

 

While we cannot determine with certainty why volumes improved in the quarter, we believe we may have benefited from the impact of increased procedures from patients in large deductible health plans who sought to utilize medical services prior to these deductibles resetting in 2014. Also, we noted additional patient volume in our centers from those who were early enrollees in health exchanges under the Health Reform Act. We continue to hope that we will benefit in 2014 from increasing enrolment in some of these health insurance exchanges. Our financial performance is very sensitive to swings in same-center volume and revenue performance. Even low digit revenue growth can bring material incremental EBITDA and profitability.

 

I’d like to take a few minutes and review some of our achievements in 2013 as they represent—as they are representative of important aspects of our future strategy and are essential to positioning us for success as we move forward in a dynamically changing industry landscape.

 

First, throughout 2013, we integrated the operations we purchased at year end 2012 of Lennox Hill Radiology, which is the largest non-hospital based outpatient imaging center operation in Manhattan. Lennox Hill has been an operator in the New York City market for 25 years and we could not have chosen a better platform from which to build as we continue to penetrate this exciting new market for us. We subsequently purchased a controlling interest in Park West Radiology and acquired the assets of an additional center in Manhattan, which we branded Lennox Hill Radiology on 130 West 79th Street. Also in August of 2013, we completed the acquisition of Manhattan Diagnostic Radiology, a multi-modality operation with four imaging centers located in Manhattan. The transaction increased our breadth of services, patient capacity and efficiency in Manhattan. We continue to be excited about opportunities within Manhattan and other boroughs of New York City.

 

Also during 2013, we furthered our relationship with the Barnabas Health System. We opened our first joint venture facility with Barnabas in Cedar Knolls, New Jersey. It became operational with most of the larger New Jersey insurance networks late in the first quarter of 2013, and then we constructed a second joint venture located in Morris Sussex (ph), New Jersey during the second quarter of 2013. We commenced performing utilization management services for Barnabas Health’s approximately 28,000 employees and dependents with respect to their diagnostic imaging needs and are providing these employees with a network of facilities throughout New Jersey.

 

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In 2013, we also furthered the information technology initiatives, including voice recognition transcription and eRAD RIS and PACS that we believe are important to the long-term success of our business. We began the rollout of our voice recognition transcription solution to our facilities across our networks. We have seen both significant productivity gains and faster turnaround times for reports in the regions and centers that already deploy this technology. As a result, we have been able to reduce internal transcription costs. In centers we’ve actually already successfully integrated voice recognition transcription, we reduced report turnaround time by as much as six to 12 hours.

 

On the eRAD RIS and PACS side of our IT initiatives, we continue to roll out these systems across our networks. Since the eRAD RIS and PACS have efficient outpatient workflow capabilities, we are able to operate our centers with fewer manual processes, thus ultimately leading to better efficiency and reduce costs.

 

Still, we have challenges in front of us as we must overcome reimbursement obstacles from government and private payors, utilization pressure and uncertain health reform. As many of you are aware, we are faced with a 20 to $22 million negative impact to our revenue in 2014 from changes in the Medicare Physician Fee Schedule. We are meeting this challenge with the comprehensive $30 million cost savings plans which we have focused much of our management time and attention implementing over the last several months.

 

The reimbursement challenges create further opportunities for RadNet to separate itself from other industry competitors and participants. Although it hasn’t been easy, we’ve adopted what many believe to be the only strategy that works in our industry. We remain committed to our focus on scale, geographic clustering and multi-modality. A dislocation in our industry has provided us a runway to grow our business, consolidate weaker industry players and partner with large health systems and other healthcare institutions into the future.

 

At this time, I’d like to turn the call back over to Mark to discuss some of our highlights of our fourth quarter and full 2013 performance. When he is finished, I will make some closing remarks.

 

Mark Stolper:   Thank you, Howard. I’m now going to briefly review our fourth quarter and full year 2013 performance and attempt to highlight what I believe to be some material items. I will also give some further explanation of certain items in our financial statements, as well as provide some insights into some of the metrics that drove our fourth quarter performance. I will also provide 2014 guidance levels and discuss this morning’s announcements regarding our proposed refinancing transaction.

 

In my discussion today, I will use the term ‘adjusted EBITDA’, which is a non-GAAP financial measure. The Company defines adjusted EBITDA as earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, each from continuing operations, and excludes losses or gains on the disposal of equipment, other income or loss, loss on debt extinguishments, bargain purchase gains and non-equity cash—non-equity compensation. Adjusted EBITDA includes equity earnings and unconsolidated operations and subtracts allocations of earnings to non-controlling interests in subsidiaries and is adjusted for non-cash or extraordinary and one-time events taken place during the period. A full quantitative reconciliation of adjusted EBITDA to net income or loss attributable to RadNet, Inc. common shareholders is included in our earnings release.

 

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With that said, I’d like now to review our fourth quarter and full year 2013 results. For the three months ended December 31st, 2013, RadNet reported revenue and adjusted EBITDA of $178.3 million and $31.9 million, respectively. Revenue increased $19 million or 11.9% over the prior year’s same quarter and adjusted EBITDA increased $7.3 million or 30% over the prior year’s same quarter. For the fourth quarter of 2013, as compared with the prior year’s fourth quarter, aggregate MRI volume increased 16.8%, CT volume increased 5% and PET/CT volume decreased 4.7%. Overall volume, taking into account routine imaging exams, inclusive of X-ray, ultrasound, mammography and other exams, increased 12.2% over the prior year’s fourth quarter.

 

In the fourth quarter of 2013, we performed 1,137,825 total procedures. The procedures were consistent with our multi-modality approach, whereby 77.6% of all the work we did by volume was from routine imaging. Our procedures in the fourth quarter of 2013 were as follows: 149,020 MRIs as compared with 127,561 MRIs in the fourth quarter of 2012; 100,082 CTs compared with 95,342 CTs in the fourth quarter of 2012; 5,666 PET/CTs as compared with 5,944 PET/CTs in the fourth quarter of 2012; and 883,057 routine imaging exams compared with 785,709 of all these exams in the fourth quarter of 2012.

 

Net income for the fourth quarter of 2013 was $1.2 million, or $0.03 per share, compared to net loss of $4 million, or $0.10 per share reported for the three-month period December 31st, 2012, based upon weighted average number of shares outstanding of 39.6 million shares and 38.3 million shares for these periods in 2013 and 2012, respectively, and excluding the 55.9 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized in the fourth quarter of 2012. Affecting net income in the fourth quarter of 2013 were certain non-cash expenses and non-recurring items, including the following: $529,000 of non-cash employee stock compensation expense resulting from the vesting of certain options, warrants and restricted stock; 494,000 of severance paid in connection with headcount reductions related to cost savings initiatives; $675,000 loss on the disposal of certain capital equipment; and $1.2 million of amortization of deferred financing fees and discount on issuance of debt related to our existing credit facilities and our 10.375% senior unsecured notes.

 

With regards to some specific income statement accounts, overall GAAP interest expense for the fourth quarter of 2013 was $11.2 million. This compares with GAAP interest expense in the fourth quarter of 2012 of $12.9 million. This lower interest expense is mainly the result of the re-pricing transaction that we completed in April of 2013, which lowered the interest on our first lien term loan by over 100 basis points.

 

For the fourth quarter of 2013, bad debt expense was 4.2% of our service fee revenue compared with 4.3% for the fourth quarter of 2012.

 

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For the full year of 2013, RadNet reported revenue and adjusted EBITDA of $703 million and $112.8 million, respectively. Revenue increased $55.8 million, or 8.6%, over 2012 and adjusted EBITDA decreased 759,000, or 0.7%, over 2012. For the year ended December 31st, 2013, as compared with 2012, MRI increased 12.2%, CT volume increased 1.2% and PET/CT volume decreased 2.4%. Overall volume, taking into account routine imaging exams, inclusive of X-ray, ultrasound, mammography and all other exams, increased 9.3% for the 12 months of 2013 over 2012.

 

In 2013, we performed 4,525,490 total procedures. The procedures were consistent with our multi-modality approach, whereby 77.6% of all the work we did by volume was from routine imaging. Our procedures in 2013 were as follows: 592,050 MRIs as compared with 527,853 MRIs in 2012; 400,027 CTs as compared with 395,446 CTs in 2012; 23,448 PET/CTs as compared with 24,035 PET/CTs in 2012; and 3,509,965 routine imaging exams compared with 3,194,933 of all these exams in 2012.

 

Net income for 2013 was $0.05 per share compared with net income $0.12 per share in 2012, based upon weighted average number of diluted shares outstanding of 39.8 million and 39.2 million in 2013 and 2012, respectively, and excluding the $55.2 million non-cash income tax benefit recognized during 2012. Affecting net income in 2013 were certain non-cash expenses and non-recurring items, including the following: $2.6 million of non-cash employee stock compensation expense resulting from the vesting of certain options and restricted stock; $806,000 of severance paid in connection with headcount reductions related to cost savings initiatives; $1 million loss on the disposal of certain capital equipment; $2.1 million gain on the sale of imaging centers; and $4.6 million of amortization of deferred financing fees and discounts on issuance of debt related to our existing credit facilities and our 10.375% senior unsecured notes.

 

With regards to some specific income statement accounts, overall GAAP interest expense in 2013 was $45.8 million. Adjusting for the non-cash impacts from items such as amortization of financing fees and accrued interest, cash interest expense was $41.8 million in 2013. This compares with GAAP interest expense in 2012 of $53.8 million and cash paid for interest of $47.8 million.

 

For 2013, bad debt expense was 4.2% of our service fee revenue compared with an overall blended rate of 4.2% for the full year of 2012.

 

With regards to our balance sheet, as of December 31st, 2013, and unadjusted for bond and term loan discounts, we had $585.3 million of net debt, which is total debt less our cash balance. As of year-end 2013, we were undrawn on our $101.25 million revolving line of credit, and we had an $8.4 million cash balance. At December 31st, 2013, our accounts receivable balance was $133.6 million, an increase of $4.4 million from year-end 2012. Our net days sales outstanding, or DSOs, was 57 days at December 31st, 2013, lower by 6.4 days when compared to 63.4 days as of that date one year ago. Our accounts payable and accrued expenses were flat year-over-year at approximately $106 million. Throughout 2013, we repaid $9.8 million of notes and leases payable, had cash capital expenditures net of asset dispositions and sale of imaging center assets and joint venture interests of $41.4 million.

 

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I will now discuss how RadNet performed relative to our revised 2013 guidance levels, which we released upon announcing our third quarter 2013 financial results. For revenue, our guidance range was 700 to $730 million; our actual results were $730.9 million. For adjusted EBITDA, our guidance range was 105 to $110 million; our actual results were $112.8 million. For capital expenditures, our guidance range was 35 to $40 million; our actual results were $41.4 million. For cash interest expense, our guidance range was 40 to $43 million; our actual results were $41.8 million. And for free cash flow generation, our guidance range was 20 to $30 million; our actual results were $29.6 million.

 

Our fourth quarter performance was stronger than that which was projected when we issued our revised full year 2013 guidance levels. As a result, we exceeded the high end of our revenue and EBITDA guidance levels, and with respect to free cash flow generation, we are pleased that our actual results were at the very top of our guidance range.

 

At this time, I’d like to review our 2014 guidance levels, which we released this morning in our earnings press release. For 2014 fiscal year, we announced our guidance ranges as follows: For revenue, 700 million to $730 million; for adjusted EBITDA, 110 to $120 million; for capital expenditures, 40 to $45 million; for cash interest expense, 38 to $42 million; and for free cash flow generation, 30 to $40 million. As reflected in our 2014 guidance, we are optimistic about 2014, even in the face of an estimated 20 to $22 million negative impact to our 2014 revenue from the changes in the Medicare Physician Fee Schedule, which we announced in December. In response to these cuts, we launched an aggressive plan to eliminate $30 million of operating cost from our business. Our 2014 guidance reflects our confidence in achieving at least $20 million of these cost savings within 2014.

 

Our guidance also incorporates what we are projecting to be a soft first quarter in 2014 due to the unusually severe weather conditions that have existed in the northeastern part of the United States in January and February this year.

 

I’d now like to discuss our capital structure opportunity. As many of you may have seen this morning in our financial results press release, we announced a proposed refinancing transaction of our $200 million 10.375% senior unsecured notes due 2018. The intended refinancing may include a tender offer for or redemption of our senior unsecured notes which would be replaced by new senior unsecured second lien—excuse me, senior secured second lien term loan debt and additional indebtedness under our senior secured first lien credit facility. The potential refinancing transaction would be subject to negotiations with current lenders of our senior secured debt and market and other conditions. Thus, there can be no assurance that we will complete a refinancing transaction on terms that are favorable to us and to our investors. We also may engage from time to time in discussions with certain creditors of ours and holders of our senior unsecured notes as we pursue the potential refinancing transaction.

 

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We have publicly discussed in recent quarters the possibility of lowering our cost of capital through refinancing our 10.375% senior unsecured notes with less expensive capital. Our objective is to reduce our cash interest obligations, provide us with additional operating flexibility and lengthen the maturity of our most junior debt capital. If successful, we currently expect to consummate a transaction in April.

 

I’d like now to turn the call back to Dr. Berger, who will make some closing remarks.

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Thank you, Mark. In summary, we are optimistic about 2014. Our business continues to be a strong cash flow generator, as we demonstrated in the fourth quarter. We ended 2013 undrawn on our revolver and with over $8 million of cash on our balance sheet.

 

Going forward, we plan on having a more balanced approach with respect to what we do with our free cash flow. In recent years, much of it was spent on acquisitions. In the future, while we believe we will remain reasonably active with small, tuck-in acquisitions, much of our free cash flow will be used to repay debt and deleverage our balance sheet. If successful, our proposed refinancing transaction will aid in this by potentially lowering our cash interest expense and providing additional funds for debt repayment.

 

Furthermore, it should be noted that of our 40 million to—45 million capital expenditure guidance level in 2014, 12 million has been earmarked for the repayment of operating leases on existing equipment as part of our cost savings initiatives. Put differently, we expect to spend between 28 million and 33 million on new capital equipment during 2014. This will provide free cash flow for debt repayment and deleveraging.

 

Our near-term focus will continue to be on executing our cost savings initiatives. Our ability to mitigate reimbursement pressure is greatly enhanced by, and in some cases, only exists because of our scale. We represent important and sizable books of business for many of our operating partners and vendors. These partners recognize their responsibility in assisting us with mitigating the reimbursement pressures and have cooperated with us for the long-term benefit of all parties. Additionally, as we have grown, new opportunities for efficiency have surfaced. We remain confident and energized that our operating strategy is what is necessary for sustained success in our industry.

 

Operator, we are now ready for the question and answer portion of the call.

 

Operator:   Thank you. If you do have a question today, please press star, one on your touchtone telephone. If you are using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, it is star, one to ask a question.

 

And our first question is from Brian Tanquilut from Jefferies.

 

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Brian Tanquilut:   Good morning, guys, and congratulations. So first question for Howard or Mark, the cost savings that you outlined, if you don’t mind just giving us details on what exactly we’re looking at? And then how should we think about the ramp in the realization of those cost savings? And then the last part on that question would be, you know, should we expect it to be at that $30 million run rate exiting 2014?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   I’ll take that question, and in reverse order. We do expect to be at that run rate by the end of the year. The cost savings initiatives, broken down into several components, some of it is for headcount reduction, which we have, at this point, already completed. The initial phase of that which we indicated in the close call of the third quarter in November and are looking at other opportunities to go even beyond that. Other cost saving measures come from, as we mentioned in this close call, conversion of operating leases, as well as other areas that involve the implementation of our new IT systems related to RIS, PACS and voice recognition. All three of those initiatives are well underway and will be completed before the end of the 2014 calendar year.

 

So a combination of those primary three sources, along with other negotiations with vendors on purchasing of supplies and materials, give us the $30 million that we talked about. The opportunity, we believe, is for the substantial bulk of those to actually be implemented by the end of the third quarter, many of which, as I said before, are well underway, but in particular the rollout of our IT solutions, which has been long in coming, is now well underway and is an aggressive schedule to get the entire 250 centers of RadNet on the new platform by the end of the third quarter. So certainly, exiting the year, our ramp will be at the $30 million and with any additional opportunities that we’re looking at, it may even exceed that going into 2015.

 

Brian Tanquilut:   Okay, and then, Howard, you know, obviously Q4, the volumes were good, but as we think about, you know, just market share shift within the industry, I’m guessing you guys are gaining share from the mom-and-pops, but what are you seeing now in terms of share shift into the hospital and vice versa? And I know you have your partnership in New Jersey. Is that sort of the model that we should see going forward, where, you know, these hospitals would partner more—I mean, are you seeing more interest in that sort of arrangement?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Well, I’ll answer that question and maybe broaden it just a little bit. I believe that there is going to be major shifts and a continuation of work out of hospitals in—and into ambulatory centers, and I’m, of course, being somewhat general with that because that includes not only imaging but outpatient surgery centers, lab work, et cetera. I believe that the wakeup call to the commercial payors has now been well recognized, that the cost structures and reimbursement to the hospitals is substantially greater than what is achievable in the outpatient sector, and as a result, many of the payors are now doing plan design that will help direct patients to more affordable imaging, as well as other outpatient procedures, as well as being very active in that process itself in making their insured people aware of this and hopefully even directing them more so.

 

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The hospital systems that recognize this are certainly going to be looking more actively about how they increase their outpatient presence. Barnabas, to their credit, was one of the first to do that and we believe that there will be others that will knock on our door to look at similar types of strategy, and the key to this, which I think is a very real one and is a word that is creeping more and more into the lexicon of all providers, is population health. The idea of just shifting business, if you will, from outpatient—into outpatient centers from inpatient doesn’t address the overall issues that I believe the traditional fee-for-service model encompasses. More and more people are talking about taking larger groups of patients and moving them into more controlled economic alliances, partnerships with many providers, imaging being perhaps the most prominent of those given the prolific nature of that need in the medical community and in the population.

 

So I think 2014, and certainly going into 2015, is going to be a very significant year of change. How rapidly the change is adopted is going to be a matter (audio interference) the various providers and payors recognizing and coming together in different economic models than what we have been traditionally used to, and I think this will be something that’ll be seen, you know, across the United States. Hopefully, as our strategy has indicated, we are in the major population areas, where about 25% of the total United States population resides and shifts for population health management and other forms of partnering certainly can bring large volumes of patients under control. We at RadNet, of course, have been involved in what I’ll call population health management through our capitation in California, and we see that opportunity now being something more seriously considered outside of California, and as people look at that as a better model for managing cost and managing access and quality of care.

 

So in answer to your question, we are excited about these opportunities. I think that they will certainly have significant impacts on the smaller players. I believe some of those shifts are going on. There is a continuing escalation of providers out there that are either closing up their operations or looking for safe havens with bigger systems like ourselves, and I believe the shifts that we’re going to see are going to set the path for major changes in the delivery of healthcare over the next five to 10 years. I believe RadNet will be in the markets that we’re in and perhaps even in new markets that might be—that might attract opportunities to us and for us are things that you might expect to hear from us.

 

Brian Tanquilut:   Last question for you, Howard, just to that last point. So as we think about free cash flow, you’re guiding to, you know, 40 to 45 million roughly of free cash, how should we expect you to deploy that? I mean, would you—sorry, free cash from 30 to 40. Would you consider going to new markets and making acquisitions, or what’s the plan right now for free cash deployment? Thanks.

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Well, our primary goal for 2014, as Mark outlined in his statements, is for pay down of our debt and deleveraging, so I think you may see more comments about that in our proposed refinancing; that will be more of a commitment for that for the Company. And while that is something that we will aggressively be pursuing, if there are opportunities for us to go into other markets that truly represent long-term opportunities and require us to use some of that cash for the purposes, we’ll look at that—at those on a case-by-case basis, and I believe if we do find those opportunities, they will represent significantly different types of long-term benefits and vision for the Company than what we have traditionally been looking at.

 

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Brian Tanquilut:   Got it. Thanks.

 

Operator:   Moving on, we’ll hear from Darren Lehrich from Deutsche Bank.

 

Darren Lehrich:   Thanks. Good morning, everybody. Maybe just on that last point, with regard to your views on leverage, can you just help frame in broad strokes what, you know, you think your longer-term target leverage might be, and it sounds like you’re coming to market maybe with a little bit of a different view about that, so be helpful just to frame it.

 

Mark Stolper:   Sure, Henry, it’s Mark. I’ll take…

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Darren, it’s Darren.

 

Mark Stolper:   Darren, I’m sorry, Darren. I’m talking about your colleague here. Darren, yes, I mean at the end of the year, we’re finishing up on a pro forma basis, you know, currently a little bit under 5 times EBITDA on a total debt to EBITDA basis, and you know, I think long term, we’d like to see us be closer to around 4 times, perhaps even slightly below that. I mean, I think we’re very comfortable with our leverage today and given our cost of capital and where we see our cost of capital going, you know, we have significant free cash flow, as indicated by our 30 to $40 million free cash flow guidance range for 2014. So we sleep very well at night, and we feel comfortable with our capital structure today, but going forward, I think that, you know, we’ll have more financial flexibility and more opportunity to grow the business if we were down closer to about 4 times.

 

Darren Lehrich:   Sure. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. And then just, when we think about your cost savings initiatives and the free cash flow guidance you’ve provided, can you just confirm whether or not cash restructuring costs are part of that free cash flow outlook, and you know, will cash restructuring costs be material in 2014?

 

Mark Stolper:   Sure. They will not be material in 2014. The only costs, or restructuring costs associated with achieving the roughly $30 million of cost savings is related to headcount reductions or severance, and if you notice in the fourth quarter, we had some meaningful severance there, and so a number of these, or most all of these headcount reductions occurred within 2014, so—within 2013, so as 2014 rolls on, we don’t expect to have any meaningful severance or any other restructuring costs.

 

Darren Lehrich:   Okay, thank you. And then a couple of other things briefly here just, as it relates to your commentary in Q1, obviously, you know, none of us would be surprised about weather impact, but I guess just thinking about it in the context of, you know, the last time we had a major event I guess was Q1 of 2010. Do you think, based on what you’re seeing, that it’s similar or can you just put it into some framework just to help us think through how impacted the weather has been in the business here?

 

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Dr. Howard Berger:   Well, I think as we mentioned, Darren, the guidance that we gave did include what we expect to be a soft first quarter given the weather conditions in the northeast. The weather pattern, which I think has affected virtually all businesses out there, is extraordinary and there is no way to avoid that kind of effect on the business. That being said, we do separate out in our guidance and in our forecasting the volumes on the West Coast have been extraordinarily high, some of which I believe is a result of factors that we talked about, meaning some—people getting into the new health insurance exchanges and, I think, deductibles that—or people are being a little bit more diligent on where they get their outpatient services given that they’ve got more financial responsibility for that, and I think we’re seeing that in California because of the high population here and the large number of people that we expected to see going into exchanges. We are working closely with a number of the large payors here on things like plan design and aggressive patterns, moving patients from hospitals to the outpatient facilities, and I think that what starts in California, you know, the jet stream does blow west to east and we expect to see similar patterns there once the weather clears, because again, we are in major, you know, metropolitan areas where I think a lot of people will be moving into these systems.

 

And I think—I’d like to just make one other point clear, and I may have talked about this on other close calls, one of the unique strategies of RadNet is that we are multi-modality, and you can see by our consistent results that more than three quarters of our volume is from routine imaging. If you look at the type of people who are going to be moving into some of these new products, it’s people that are going to need primarily routine imaging, not necessarily the advanced imaging, which is generally associated with people that have either illnesses or other needs to get MRI, CT and PET/CT scanning. We think that’s an enormous benefit here because capturing those patients for their routine imaging will ultimately lead to larger volumes on the advanced imaging side of it. So our strategy and our discipline, I think, is going to provide rewards for us, and we’re seeing that in California, where we haven’t been hampered by these weather patterns. And once the weather patterns improve, which, I think spring is pretty much around the corner here, I think we’re going to see similar results here.

 

I know in our relationship, which is near and dear to you, Darren, with Barnabas, this is something that both systems – meaning RadNet and Barnabas – are anticipating because they, since we’re as close to them as we are with any of our hospital partners, tell us that, you know, inpatient volumes are being challenged and it’s one of the reasons why they, you know, sought a partnership with us, is because they knew they needed more access to ambulatory services, and in Northern New Jersey where Barnabas is, there was no other candidate other than RadNet to really define that relationship, and I think that relationship has been an overwhelming and unqualified success, which, when other people become more aware of it, will certainly want to embrace that also. So I think that the guidance that we’ve given does anticipate that the fourth quarter will be—excuse me, the first quarter here will be a little bit on the weak side but that once these weather patterns improve, we expect to see, like we are here on the West Coast, substantial improvement in our volumes.

 

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Darren Lehrich:   That’s helpful color. Last thing, just briefly, Mark, the NOL position that you’re in, please?

 

Mark Stolper:   Yes, I mean it’s still north of $200 million, both on the federal and state level, so—although we—since we put the deferred tax asset on our books in the fourth quarter of 2012, although we’ve had a significant tax provision throughout 2013 as it relates to using that deferred tax asset, we still, you know, for the most part, except for some state taxes where we’re not in an NOL position in those states, we still have very little cash taxes that we’re paying.

 

Darren Lehrich:   Okay, great. Thank you.

 

Operator:   Our next question is from Henry Reukauf from Deutsche Bank.

 

Henry Reukauf:   Good morning, guys. Congratulations on a really nice quarter and some good guidance too. On the cost savings that you have, can you say what your—of the 30 million, what are you entering into the—what you entered into the year with, how much you had realized or run rating out of the fourth quarter?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Better than half of it is what we started the year with. The two major cost saving initiatives, which was buying out some operating leases and headcount reduction, were completed before the end of the year and did have a small impact in the fourth quarter results. So of the $30 million, well over half of that was achieved, as well as a couple of other initiatives with our vendors and some cost savings and purchasing initiatives. So I think it’s—I’m comfortable saying that, rolling into the year, we probably had already 20 million of the 30 million in place that would be realized on a run rate some time here in the first quarter.

 

Henry Reukauf:   Okay, so we can almost say that you, pretty much going into the first quarter, offset the impact that you’re going to see from the price reduction?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Yes.

 

Henry Reukauf:   Okay. Then, you know, since weather isn’t impacting volumes in California, and it sounds like things are going well, how do you see volumes in California? You mentioned they were up. What degree?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Well, I’m—are you talking about the fourth—are you talking about the first quarter?

 

Henry Reukauf:   I’m thinking about the first quarter because it sounds—you sound very—pretty optimistic about it, particularly in California. It’s obviously going to be weak in the East Coast—on the East Cost (cross talking).

 

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Dr. Howard Berger:   Again, we’re only barely two thirds of the way through and even January itself on the West Coast given, you know, the holidays and the ramp up here, perhaps are not quite as indicative, but I’m confident that our volumes here on the West Coast will be higher than what our overall guidance for volume increase is. Part of that is that we are getting increasingly more incoming calls from groups that want to go to capitation. Now, these are people that we may already be doing business with but who are looking to fix their costs, take advantage of the utilization management tools that we’ve honed here over 20-plus years and start directing their business into a network of imaging centers like what RadNet has, so profoundly here in California, that I think is going to cause some significant shifts in the marketplace. So I think California, again, is a bell weather for what we can expect in other parts of the country and—or let’s say on the—in the northeast marketplace here, and terms that used to be dirty words like capitation and other forms of partnering are clearly now much more on the forefront of payors’ minds and providers’ minds.

 

So given the fact that managed care is so extensive here in California, it shouldn’t be considered unusual for us to be fielding more of these calls and opportunities here, but I think it’s just a matter of time until it’s embraced in some form in other parts of the country, and whether you want to call that population health, whether you want to call it accountable care organizations, I think all of these terms are just more of a way of talking about how the traditional fee-for-service model may be changing for large books of populations. So I think RadNet, fortunately over its long history here of managing large geographic areas of centers and in populations and, most importantly, handling large volumes of—and books of business, which I can’t overestimate the value of what we’ve been working on now for three years with our information systems, there is so much opportunity to automate and remove many, many manual processes that we have been hampered with, the whole industry has for years, is now something that is a reality. It’s probably in, at this point already, maybe a quarter to – well, more than that – about a third of all of our centers and rapidly moving to be put into all of them on a single platform, which will create workflow efficiencies, cost reductions and which I believe are not only important from a financial standpoint but managing these large populations that I think we’re going to be seen with.

 

I’m very proud of our IT operation, and I believe the eRAD product, which combines RIS PACS, voice recognition, critical test reporting and utilization management tools, is a unique and probably best of breed product right now in the marketplace, and there are plenty of players in there that we compete with; that I make that statement very boldly, and I’m not putting down anybody else’s product, but this is a product that has been designed for—to handle large volumes of business in individual centers in geographic regions which does not exist out there anywhere else.

 

Henry Reukauf:   Okay. And then last one, maybe for Mark, on the guidance, am I think about this right? I mean, kind of—if I look at the low end of the guidance, it seems like, you know, the cost savings are going to offset the plus a little bit the reduction from reimbursement cut, and so kind of the low end of your guidance assumes kind of a flat year with those two things offsetting each other and you kind of remain flat, and then the upside the guidance, you know, kind of explains how you—is my thinking right on the low end? And then how do you kind of get to the high end? What are the factors there that kind of drive the nice increase?

 

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Mark Stolper:   Sure. I think that’s accurate. The low end of the guidance assumes essentially a flat year, with the cost savings that we achieve on an LTM basis, or latest 12 months basis, as of the end of the year kind of equal out with the reductions in reimbursement. The higher end of the guidance assumes some growth in same-center procedural volumes, which, you know, which we achieved in the fourth quarter of 2014 but, you know, was a—was difficult to achieve and something that we weren’t able to achieve in the first three quarters of 2013, as utilization, you know, continued to be managed and as patients have moved or migrated more towards these higher deductible plans and have been much more consumeristic and judicious about utilizing healthcare services, not just imaging but all healthcare services. So the top end of the guidance does assume some growth.

 

Henry Reukauf:   Okay. Thanks so much.

 

Operator:   We’ll go next to Duncan Brown from Wells Fargo.

 

Duncan Brown:   Hey, good morning. Maybe following up on ’14 guidance, can you talk about your expectations for commercial pricing in ’14?

 

Mark Stolper:   Sure. Our guidance assumes flat commercial pricing, which is something that we have been able to achieve over the last couple of years. We have had some reductions with the very small part of our business that has rates that are tied to Medicare, for instance, Medicare Advantage plans which we categorize in our commercial insurance payor class, you know, along with, you know, the HMOs. But for the most part, the rest of our commercial book of business has been flat and in some cases, as we discussed last year, we received some nice price increases in the mid-Atlantic region, where we have a significant concentration of centers and where we are a very significant part of the provider network for all of the insurance companies in that region. So we’re assuming flat pricing on commercial book, and then our capitated book, which represents about 9 to 10% of our business, we receive annual price increases as utilization continues to go up, even under our managed utilization functionality.

 

Duncan Brown:   And for the managed Medicare, can you remind us what percentage of your overall book that is, or as a percentage of commercial, depending on how you look at it?

 

Mark Stolper:   Yes, I don’t have that offhand, but it’s very small. I mean, our commercial book of business is about 58% of our entire book of business, and of that, you know, if it were 5%, I’d be surprised.

 

Duncan Brown:   Gotcha, thank you. And then on the—in the Q1 guidance, you know, commented that it’s going to be on the weak side. Can you remind us, what Q1 ’13 negatively—I mean, if I recall right, it was negatively impacted by Sandy; as well, obviously, the bigger impacts were Q4 ’12, so I mean are you saying it’s going to be weaker than the Sandy—or it’s going to be more pronounced than the Sandy impact was in Q1 ’13?

 

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Mark Stolper:   I mean, we don’t have the—we don’t have enough information in front of us, you know, given that we haven’t closed two of the three months of 2014, but what I could tell you is that, if you remember, Sandy occurred, I think it was late October of 2012. A lot of the impact was in that fourth quarter of 2012 but there were—there was some lingering effect into 2013 and we had some other weather issues in the first quarter of 2013. What I would tell you is, you know, just from a gut feel here in first quarter of 2014, it’s probably more akin to when Sandy hit in that fourth quarter than it was to the first quarter of 2013 with the lingering effects of Sandy and some other weather. But it’s really too early to speculate, Duncan.

 

Duncan Brown:   No, that’s fair and I appreciate the commentary. I guess maybe a high level question, just in general when you have these sort of weather issues, I mean do these volumes – and this maybe too high level of a question – but do these volumes just get deferred and you eventually realize them, or are they by and large just lost opportunities?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   I think they’re mostly lost opportunities, and the reason I say that is, you know, the only way you realize those is if you can take the patients that weren’t done and do them by having capacity in your centers to, let’s say, double up your business, and most of our centers are pretty busy and can’t absorb that, number one, so you lose those slots forever. Number two, the bigger issue is that, remember, these volumes, or the impairment of these volumes is not singular to outpatient imaging. When we are not open, generally speaking, the doctors who refer us patients are not open, either because they can’t get to their offices or their patients can’t get to their offices and as a result, those patients wind up getting their services pushed back simply because we don’t get the referrals given that their referring doctors’ offices are closed also.

 

And perhaps the most difficult part of really understanding this is that, you know, 99% of what we do – maybe that’s a little bit much – but a high—very, very high percentage of what we do is elective work and as a result, sometimes people who are ill, if they get better, they may decide not to go the doctor in the first place or not need a test, and so some of the work may never get done given the fact that there’s a deferral in the entire system of having these patients, you know, go through the healthcare process of diagnostic evaluation and treatment. So it’s very disruptive and I don’t believe that we’re going to have the chance of recovery. Think of it as an airline. You know, when the airlines are down and those seats are lost, they’re lost forever and it doesn’t mean that the people who fly the airlines can get booked on the next flight, which is probably already full anyhow, so there’s a lot of similarities to the airline industry, I think, when it comes to imaging.

 

Duncan Brown:   All right, great. Thanks a lot.

 

Operator:   We’ll go next to Elie Radinsky from Cantor.

 

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Elie Radinsky:   Yes, hi, congratulations again on a good quarter. Just two quick questions for you. Now that you’re in California and many other states that are participating in the Medicaid expansion and the Affordable Care Act, can you discuss any thoughts that you may have on that program for the year given that you’ve had two months of experience in that, if any? And the second thing is, is when you talked about refinancing your bond, you mentioned that your, you know, proposal to do a second lien and other debt or other financing, what would that other financing be? Thank you.

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   I’ll take the first part and then I’ll defer the second part to Mark. What we’re seeing, and probably didn’t anticipate would be the case, is that a number of these new insured are rolling into the large medical groups who we already have capitation arrangements with, and that process didn’t really start getting some legs until probably the month of February, where we are now getting contacted by our groups and telling us to be prepared for some significant upward enrolment in their HMO products. So what we’re now moving towards is a recognition that these patients who primarily were either not being—did not have access to healthcare because they didn’t have insurance or were just winging it, if you will, and doing only what they to, are fairly aggressively making their way into the various exchanges, here in California in particular, that is resulting in, at least what we’re seeing, of a fairly exciting and growth of the HMO products that we just didn’t anticipate, and I’m not sure if anybody did. But it is going to, I think, increase our volumes at our centers, and more importantly, because so many of these are falling into our existing capitation arrangements, we’re going to see some nice increase in revenue even if these people are not immediately seeking outpatient imaging procedures.

 

So this is something that we thought might happen but couldn’t put any real definitive or certainty to it and appears to be gaining some significant momentum here as we move through the month of February and into March, where we’re being notified that these people are beginning to, you know, fall under these programs. I doubt that we will see this as quickly on the East Coast because of weather-related issues, but I believe the phenomena, given the fact that we’re in high demographically populated states, will ultimately be the same in places like New York, New Jersey, you know, Delaware and Maryland. So it may be a little bit of a delayed reaction on the East Coast but I think we’re very buoyed by what we’re seeing here on the West Coast.

 

Mark Stolper:   Elie, I’ll take the second part of your question, which was a question about the sources of funds in our refinancing. What we’re contemplating is to raise $180 million in a second lien term loan and $30 million tack-on to our existing Term Loan B, our first lien term loan. So part of the interest rate savings will come from an expected lower interest rate on the second lien term loan, and the other part will come from the fact that we’re replacing some junior capital with more senior capital.

 

Elie Radinsky:   And the expectation is for at least a 300 basis points improvement in that refinancing? Is that fair to say?

 

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Mark Stolper:   I can’t publicly comment on that right now, as, you know, we’re going to be hitting, you know, the private markets this week, inclusive of a bank meeting on Thursday. But, you know, I—yes, I can’t really say much more than that. I think that it’s safe to say that we wouldn’t be going out into the marketplace unless we thought that there was a, you know, material interest rate savings to the Company.

 

Elie Radinsky:   Excellent. Well, good luck on that.

 

Mark Stolper:   Thank you.

 

Operator:   And just a reminder, it’s star, one if you have a question. We’ll go to Alan Weber from Robotti & Company.

 

Alan Weber:   Good morning. Can you talk about you’ve seen more publicity about doctors joining hospitals and kind of what you’re doing and how—what impact you see that long term, both in California and on the East Coast?

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   Good morning, Alan. Well, I think it’s less of an issue on the West Coast here, just given the nature of the hospitals and the landscape here, particularly with managed care. So we don’t see a lot of that here on the West Coast. We are seeing some of it but just given the number of doctors, the population here, the impact overall would be very, very small. The East Coast is a little bit different. I think there’s more aggressive competition for groups on the East Coast, and while we are seeing it in some markets, it really hasn’t had much of an impact here. Again, on the East Coast, which is a little bit different, particularly in New Jersey and in Maryland, which are two of our bigger regions, we are aligned with major hospital systems, four of them in Maryland and one of them in New Jersey. So to the extent that those hospital systems wind up being part of the physician consolidation and acquisition, we actually expect to benefit from that and that has been something that we have been seeing. But overall, I don’t expect this to be a major impact all in any of the markets that we’re in.

 

Alan Weber:   Okay, great. Thank you very much.

 

Operator:   Once again, it is star, one if you have a question today.

 

And it appears there are no further questions at this time.

 

Dr. Howard Berger:   All right, well, I want to thank everybody for taking the time to listen to our close call here. Management will continue its endeavor to be the market leader that provides services with appropriate return on investment for all of its stakeholders. Thank you for your time and we look forward to our first quarter close call in May.

 

Operator:   And that does conclude our conference today. Thank you all for your participation.

 

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