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Significant Transactions OneBeacon runoff business (Details) (USD $)
In Millions, unless otherwise specified
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2012
Sep. 30, 2011
Sep. 30, 2012
Sep. 30, 2011
Significant Transactions        
Gain (loss) on sale of discontinued operation, net of tax $ (91.0) $ (18.2) $ (91.0) $ (18.2)
Income (Loss) from Discontinued Operations, Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (15.8) (12.0) (24.5) (7.8)
OneBeacon Runoff [Member]
       
Significant Transactions        
Income (Loss) from Discontinued Operations, Net of Tax, Attributable to Parent (100.5)      
Gain (loss) on sale of discontinued operation, net of tax (91.5)      
Loss attributable to change in discount rate [Member]
       
Significant Transactions        
Income (Loss) from Discontinued Operations, Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest (9.0)      
Loss attributable to prior year reserve devolopment [Member]
       
Significant Transactions        
Income (Loss) from Discontinued Operations, Net of Tax, Including Portion Attributable to Noncontrolling Interest $ (6.5)