0001140361-11-015377.txt : 20110309 0001140361-11-015377.hdr.sgml : 20110309 20110309160557 ACCESSION NUMBER: 0001140361-11-015377 CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE: 8-K PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT: 5 CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT: 20110303 ITEM INFORMATION: Results of Operations and Financial Condition ITEM INFORMATION: Financial Statements and Exhibits FILED AS OF DATE: 20110309 DATE AS OF CHANGE: 20110309 FILER: COMPANY DATA: COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: BIG LOTS INC CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0000768835 STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: RETAIL-VARIETY STORES [5331] IRS NUMBER: 061119097 STATE OF INCORPORATION: OH FISCAL YEAR END: 0131 FILING VALUES: FORM TYPE: 8-K SEC ACT: 1934 Act SEC FILE NUMBER: 001-08897 FILM NUMBER: 11675141 BUSINESS ADDRESS: STREET 1: 300 PHILLIPI ROAD STREET 2: P.O.BOX 28512 CITY: COLUMBUS STATE: OH ZIP: 43228-0512 BUSINESS PHONE: 614-278-6800 MAIL ADDRESS: STREET 1: 300 PHILLIPI ROAD STREET 2: P.O.BOX 28512 CITY: COLUMBUS STATE: OH ZIP: 43228-0512 8-K 1 form8k.htm BIG LOTS 8-K 3-3-2011 form8k.htm


UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
 
FORM 8-K
 
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): March 3, 2011

BIG LOTS, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)

Ohio
1-8897
06-1119097
(State or other jurisdiction of incorporation)
(Commission File Number)
(I.R.S. Employer Identification No.)
 
300 Phillipi Road, Columbus, Ohio 43228
 
(Address of principal executive offices) (Zip Code)
 
(614) 278-6800
(Registrant’s telephone number, including area code)
 
Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions:
 
o
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o
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o
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Item 2.02
Results of Operations and Financial Condition.

On March 3, 2011, Big Lots, Inc. (“we,” “us” or “our”) issued a press release and conducted a conference call, both of which reported our fourth quarter and full fiscal 2010 unaudited results, provided an update on the status of our previously announced $400.0 million share repurchase program, and provided initial guidance for fiscal 2011.

The press release and conference call both included “non-GAAP financial measures” as that term is defined by Rule 101 of Regulation G (17 CFR Part 244) and Item 10 of Regulation S-K (17 CFR Part 229).  Specifically, the following non-GAAP financial measures were included:  (i) adjusted selling and administrative expense; (ii) adjusted selling and administrative expense rate; (iii) adjusted operating profit; (iv) adjusted operating profit rate; (v) adjusted income tax expense; (vi) adjusted effective income tax rate; (vii) adjusted income from continuing operations; (viii) adjusted net income; (ix) adjusted diluted earnings per common share from continuing operations; and (x) adjusted diluted earnings per common share.

These non-GAAP financial measures exclude from the most directly comparable financial measures calculated and presented in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America (“GAAP”):  (i) net income of $8.2 million, or $0.10 per diluted common share, recognized during the third quarter of fiscal 2009 related to the net gain on the sale of real estate; and (ii) net loss of $2.4 million, or $0.03 per diluted common share, recognized during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2009 related to the settlement of a civil collective action.  As required by Rule 100 of Regulation G and Item 10 of Regulation S-K, the press release, which was posted in the Investor Relations section of our website and referred to during the conference call, contained a presentation of the most directly comparable financial measure calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP and a reconciliation of the difference between the non-GAAP financial measure and the most directly comparable financial measure calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP.

Our management believes that the disclosure of this non-GAAP financial measure provides useful information to investors because the non-GAAP financial measure presents an alternative and more relevant method for measuring our operating performance, excluding special items included in the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure, that our management believes is more indicative of our ongoing operating results and financial condition.  Our management uses non-GAAP financial measures, along with the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, in evaluating our operating performance.

Non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered in isolation from, or as a substitute for, financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.  Non-GAAP financial measures as reported by us may not be comparable to similarly titled items reported by other companies.

Attached as exhibits to this Form 8-K are copies of our March 3, 2011 press release (Exhibit 99.1) and the transcript of our March 3, 2011 conference call (Exhibit 99.2), including information concerning forward-looking statements and factors that may affect our future results.  The information in Exhibits 99.1 and 99.2 is being furnished, not filed, pursuant to Item 2.02 of this Form 8-K.  By furnishing the information in this Form 8-K and the attached exhibits, we are making no admission as to the materiality of any information in this Form 8-K or the exhibits.

Item 9.01
Financial Statements and Exhibits.

 
(d)
Exhibits

Exhibits marked with an asterisk (*) are furnished herewith.

Exhibit No.
Description
   
Big Lots, Inc. press release dated March 3, 2011.
   
Big Lots, Inc. conference call transcript dated March 3, 2011.

 
 

 

Signature

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.

 
BIG LOTS, INC.
     
Date:  March 9, 2011
By:
/s/ Charles W. Haubiel II
   
Charles W. Haubiel II
   
Executive Vice President, Legal and Real Estate,
   
General Counsel and Corporate Secretary
 
 

EX-99.1 2 ex99_1.htm EXHIBIT 99.1 ex99_1.htm

Exhibit 99.1
 
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
  Contact:  Timothy A. Johnson
  Vice President, Strategic
 
Planning and Investor Relations    
  614-278-6622
 
BIG LOTS REPORTS RECORD RESULTS
 
RECORD FOURTH QUARTER 2010 EPS OF $1.46 PER DILUTED SHARE
 
RECORD FISCAL 2010 EPS OF $2.83 PER DILUTED SHARE
 
COMPANY PROVIDES FISCAL 2011 SALES AND EPS GUIDANCE

Columbus, Ohio – March 3, 2011 – Big Lots, Inc. (NYSE: BIG) is reporting fourth quarter fiscal 2010 net income totaled $110.1 million, or $1.46 per diluted share, compared to $105.4 million, or $1.27 per diluted share, in the prior year.  Fourth quarter fiscal 2010 income from continuing operations totaled $110.0 million, or $1.46 per diluted share, compared to income from continuing operations of $106.2 million, or $1.28 per diluted share, for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2009.  For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2009, adjusted (non-GAAP) income from continuing operations totaled $108.6 million, or $1.31 per diluted share, which excludes the effect of a litigation settlement charge discussed later in this release.

For the fiscal 2010 year ended January 29, 2011, net income totaled $222.5 million, or $2.83 per diluted share, compared to $200.4 million, or $2.42 per diluted share, in the prior year.  Fiscal 2010 income from continuing operations totaled $222.5 million, or $2.83 per diluted share, compared to $201.4 million, or $2.44 per diluted share, for fiscal 2009.  For fiscal 2009, excluding the effect of the net gain on a real estate sale and a litigation settlement charge discussed later in this release, adjusted (non-GAAP) income from continuing operations totaled $195.6 million, or $2.37 per diluted share.

FISCAL 2010 HIGHLIGHTS
 
·
Record income from continuing operations of $2.83 per diluted share, a 19% increase over last year’s record adjusted (non-GAAP) income from continuing operations of $2.37 per diluted share
·
Comparable store sales increase of 2.5% and total sales increase of 4.8%
·
Record operating profit dollars of $357 million as operating profit rate improved to 7.2%, or 50 basis points above last year’s adjusted results
·
Cash Flow (defined as operating activities less investing activities) of $201 million
·
Invested $342 million to repurchase 10.5 million shares, or approximately 13% of our outstanding shares as of the beginning of fiscal 2010
·
Opened 80 new stores and now have a presence in all 48 contiguous states
 
 
  Shareholder Relations Department
300 Phillipi Road
Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666
 E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com
 
 
 

 
 
Commenting on fiscal 2010 results, Steve Fishman, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President stated, “We were very pleased to deliver our fourth consecutive year of record operating profit and EPS results.  We grew sales productivity and gross margin dollars while recording the lowest expense rate in the Company’s history.  We successfully opened 80 new stores where the sales performance exceeded our expectations.  And, the financial model got stronger in 2010 as we generated a significant amount of cash to reinvest in our business and return to our shareholders through our repurchase efforts.”

FOURTH QUARTER HIGHLIGHTS
 
·
Record income from continuing operations of $1.46 per diluted share, an 11% increase over last year’s  adjusted (non-GAAP) income from continuing operations of $1.31 per diluted share
·
Total sales increase of 3.8% driven by strength of new store performance
·
Record operating profit dollars of $177 million
·
Opened 27 new stores
 
Fourth Quarter Results
 
Net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 increased 3.8% to $1,518.9 million, compared to $1,463.3 million for the same period in fiscal 2009.  Comparable store sales for stores open at least two years at the beginning of the fiscal year were flat.
 
Operating profit for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 was $177.2 million, or 11.7% of sales, compared to last year’s operating profit on an adjusted (non-GAAP) basis of $173.5 million, or 11.9% of sales.  As anticipated, our gross margin rate decreased 50 basis points compared to last year due to higher domestic freight costs and lower overall initial markup due to certain of our holiday merchandising strategies.  Expenses as a percent of sales decreased, or leveraged, due to efficiencies in distribution and transportation, store payroll, and lower bonus expense compared to last year.

For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010, net interest expense was $0.8 million compared to net interest expense of $0.4 million last year with the increase attributed to $342 million of share repurchase activity partially offset by the overall cash flow of the business in the last 12 months.  The effective income tax rate for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 was 37.6% compared to 37.3% last year on an adjusted (non-GAAP) basis.

Inventory and Cash Management

Inventory ended the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 at $762 million compared to $731 million last year.  The increase in overall inventory reflected a 1% increase in average store inventory and a higher store count at the end of the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 compared to the same period last year.

We ended the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 with total cash and cash equivalents of $178 million, compared to cash and cash equivalents of $284 million at the same time last year.  The decrease in cash and cash equivalents relates to $342 million of share repurchase activity, partially offset by the cash generated by our business over the last 12 months.  We ended the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 with no borrowings under our credit facility.
 
 
  Shareholder Relations Department
300 Phillipi Road
Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666
 E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com
 
 
 

 
 
Share Repurchase Program Update

As a reminder, in March 2010, our Board of Directors increased the size of our share repurchase program by $250 million bringing the total authorization to $400 million.  On March 10, 2010, we utilized $150 million of the authorization to execute an Accelerated Share Repurchase (ASR) transaction which reduced our common shares outstanding by 3.6 million.  The total number of shares repurchased under the ASR was based upon the volume weighted average price of our stock, less a small guaranteed discount, over a predetermined period of time.  The contract was settled with the counterparty on December 30, 2010 and an additional distribution of 0.9 million shares was received.  The total shares repurchased under the ASR amounted to 4.5 million at a weighted average price of $33.51 per share.

Additionally, throughout the year, we invested $192 million to opportunistically repurchase 6.0 million shares at an average price of $32.16.  For fiscal 2010, including both the ASR and opportunistic activity, we repurchased 10.5 million shares, or approximately 13% of the shares outstanding at the beginning of the year, at a weighted average price of $32.74 per share.  At the end of fiscal 2010, we had $58 million remaining under our $400 million March 2010 Repurchase Program.  The remaining amount may be utilized to repurchase shares in the open market and/or in privately negotiated transactions at our discretion, subject to market conditions and other factors.  Common shares acquired through the repurchase program will be available to meet obligations under equity compensation plans and for general corporate purposes.

Unusual Excluded Items (Fiscal 2009)

In November 2004, a civil collective action was filed against us alleging that we violated the Fair Labor Standards Act by misclassifying assistant store managers as exempt employees.  As a result of this case, we sent a notice of the lawsuit to all then-current and former assistant store managers who worked for us since November 23, 2001.  Approximately 1,100 individuals opted to join in the collective action.  Ultimately, it was determined that this matter should not be brought as a collective action requiring, instead, each claimant to bring an individual action.  Approximately 172 of the opt-in plaintiffs participated in individual actions.  After defending this matter for 5 years, we decided to enter into a settlement agreement requiring the payment of approximately $4.0 million ($2.4 million net of tax, or $0.03 per diluted share), during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2009.
 
In September 2006, to avoid litigation and under threat of eminent domain, we sold a company-owned and operated store in California for a gain.  As part of the sale, we entered into a lease which permitted us to continue to occupy and operate the store through January 2009 in exchange for rent of $1 per year plus the taxes, insurance, and common area maintenance.  Subsequently, this lease was modified to allow us to occupy this space through September 2009 under substantially the same terms.  Because of the favorable lease terms, we deferred recognition of the gain until we no longer held a continuing involvement with this property.  In September 2009, after attempts to further extend the lease term were unsuccessful, we closed the store, ending our continuing involvement with this property, and recognized the pretax gain on sale of real estate of $13.0 million ($8.2 million net of tax, or $0.10 per diluted share), during the third quarter of fiscal 2009.

We believe each of these items is not directly related to our ongoing operations.  Therefore, we have provided a complementary schedule entitled “Big Lots, Inc. and Subsidiaries Reconciliation of Non-GAAP Financial Measures” that excludes these items.  We believe that these non-GAAP financial measures should facilitate analysis by investors and others who follow our financial performance.
 
 
  Shareholder Relations Department
300 Phillipi Road
Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666
 E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com
 
 
 

 
 
Discontinued Operations

As discussed in our Form 10-K filed with the SEC on March 30, 2010, activity related to KB Toys, our former division, as well as the operating results and costs associated with 130 stores closed in January 2006 are classified as discontinued operations.  Results from discontinued operations for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 were minimal compared to a net loss from discontinued operations of $0.8 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2009.   For fiscal 2010, results from discontinued operations were minimal compared to a net loss from discontinued operations of $1.0 million for fiscal 2009.

2011 OUTLOOK
 
·
Initial Fiscal 2011 guidance for income from continuing operations of $3.05 to $3.15 per diluted share versus income from continuing operations of $2.83 per diluted share in Fiscal 2010
·
Initial Fiscal 2011 sales guidance calls for a comparable store sales increase of 1% to 2% and a total sales increase of 5% to 6%
·
Initial Fiscal 2011 Cash Flow guidance of approximately $205 million
·
Initial Fiscal 2011 guidance of 90 new store openings
·
Initial Q1 2011 guidance for income from continuing operations of $0.76 to $0.81 per diluted share versus income from continuing operations of $0.68 per diluted share in Q1 2010

We estimate fiscal 2011 income from continuing operations will be in the range of $3.05 to $3.15 per diluted share compared to income from continuing operations of $2.83 per diluted share for fiscal 2010.  This guidance for EPS is based on a projected comparable store sales increase in the range of 1% to 2% and a total sales increase in the range of 5% to 6%.  We estimate that the operating profit rate will be in a range of 7.3% to 7.5% of sales with the expansion expected to come from an improving expense rate.  The gross margin rate for fiscal 2011 is expected to be similar to fiscal 2010 and we are estimating that flat to slightly positive comparable store sales are needed to leverage the expense structure of the business.

We estimate net interest expense of approximately $1 million and an income tax rate in the range of 38.0% to 39.0% for fiscal 2011.  Capital expenditures are expected to be in the range of $125 million to $130 million with depreciation expense estimated to be in the range of $90 million to $95 million.  We estimate this financial performance would result in Cash Flow of approximately $205 million.  The average diluted common share count is estimated to be approximately 76 million for fiscal 2011 with no assumption for share repurchase activity.

From a real estate perspective, we expect to open 90 new stores during fiscal 2011 and close up to 45 locations for net store growth of 45 stores, or approximately 3%, which is included in our capital expenditures and depreciation guidance noted above.

For the first quarter of fiscal 2011, we estimate comparable store sales will be in a range of slightly positive to slightly negative with total sales up in the range of 2% to 4%.  Based on this level of sales performance, our income from continuing operations is estimated to be in the range of $0.76 to $0.81 per diluted share, compared to income from continuing operations $0.68 per diluted share for the first quarter of fiscal 2010.
 
 
  Shareholder Relations Department
300 Phillipi Road
Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666
 E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com

 
 

 
 
Conference Call/Webcast
 
We will host a conference call today at 8:00 a.m. to discuss our financial results for the fourth quarter and provide commentary on our guidance for fiscal 2011.  We invite you to listen to the webcast of the conference call through the Investor Relations section of our website (www.biglots.com).
 
An archive of the call will be available through the Investor Relations section of our website (www.biglots.com) beginning two hours after the call ends and will remain available through midnight on Thursday, March 17.  A replay of the call will be available beginning today at noon through March 17 at midnight by dialing: 1.888.203.1112 (United States and Canada) or 1.719.457.0820 (International).  All times are Eastern Time.  The PIN number is 1659098.
 
Big Lots is the nation’s largest broadline closeout retailer.  As of the end of fiscal 2010 (January 29, 2011), we operated 1,398 BIG LOTS stores in 48 states. We also sell merchandise via our wholesale operations which are conducted through BIG LOTS WHOLESALE, CONSOLIDATED INTERNATIONAL, and WISCONSIN TOY.  Our website is located at www.biglots.com.

Cautionary Statement Concerning Forward-Looking Statements

Certain statements in this release are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, and such statements are intended to qualify for the protection of the safe harbor provided by the Act. The words “anticipate,” “estimate,” “expect,” “objective,” “goal,” “project,” “intend,” “plan,” “believe,” “will,” “should,” “may,” “target,” “forecast,” “guidance,” “outlook” and similar expressions generally identify forward-looking statements. Similarly, descriptions of our objectives, strategies, plans, goals or targets are also forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements relate to the expectations of management as to future occurrences and trends, including statements expressing optimism or pessimism about future operating results or events and projected sales, earnings, capital expenditures and business strategy. Forward-looking statements are based upon a number of assumptions concerning future conditions that may ultimately prove to be inaccurate. Forward-looking statements are and will be based upon management’s then-current views and assumptions regarding future events and operating performance, and are applicable only as of the dates of such statements. Although we believe the expectations expressed in forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions within the bounds of our knowledge, forward-looking statements, by their nature, involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, any one or a combination of which could materially affect our business, financial condition, results of operations or liquidity.

Forward-looking statements that we make herein and in other reports and releases are not guarantees of future performance and actual results may differ materially from those discussed in such forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including, but not limited to, the current economic and credit crisis, the cost of goods, our inability to successfully execute strategic initiatives, competitive pressures, economic pressures on our customers and us, the availability of brand name closeout merchandise, trade restrictions, freight costs, the risks discussed in the Risk Factors section of our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K, and other factors discussed from time to time in our other filings with the SEC, including Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q and Current Reports on Form 8-K. This release should be read in conjunction with such filings, and you should consider all of these risks, uncertainties and other factors carefully in evaluating forward-looking statements.
 
You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date thereof. We undertake no obligation to publicly update forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. You are advised, however, to consult any further disclosures we make on related subjects in our public announcements and SEC filings.
 
 
  Shareholder Relations Department
300 Phillipi Road
Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666
 E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com

 
 

 
 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS
(In thousands)

   
JANUARY 29
   
JANUARY 30
 
   
2011
   
2010
 
   
(Unaudited)
       
             
ASSETS
           
             
Current assets:
           
Cash and cash equivalents
  $ 177,539     $ 283,733  
Inventories
    762,146       731,337  
Deferred income taxes
    50,252       51,012  
Other current assets
    61,782       56,884  
Total current assets
    1,051,719       1,122,966  
                 
Property and equipment - net
    524,906       491,256  
                 
Deferred income taxes
    6,666       28,136  
Other assets
    36,308       27,135  
    $ 1,619,599     $ 1,669,493  
                 
LIABILITIES AND SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY
               
                 
Current liabilities:
               
Accounts payable
  $ 302,818     $ 309,862  
Property, payroll and other taxes
    75,401       69,388  
Accrued operating expenses
    53,771       52,519  
Insurance reserves
    37,741       39,570  
KB bankruptcy lease obligation
    3,552       4,786  
Accrued salaries and wages
    43,433       47,402  
Income taxes payable
    25,215       18,993  
Total current liabilities
    541,931       542,520  
                 
Deferred rent
    42,037       31,490  
Insurance reserves
    46,145       44,695  
Unrecognized tax benefits
    19,142       28,577  
Other liabilities
    23,551       20,799  
                 
Shareholders' equity
    946,793       1,001,412  
    $ 1,619,599     $ 1,669,493  

 
 

 
 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(In thousands, except per share data)

   
13 WEEKS ENDED
   
13 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
January 29, 2011
   
January 30, 2010
 
          %            %  
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
                         
                         
Net sales
  $ 1,518,943       100.0     $ 1,463,280       100.0  
Gross margin
    619,964       40.8       604,752       41.3  
Selling and administrative expenses
    421,726       27.8       416,699       28.5  
Depreciation expense
    21,074       1.4       18,556       1.3  
Gain on sale of real estate
    0       0.0       0       0.0  
Operating profit
    177,164       11.7       169,497       11.6  
Interest expense
    (808 )     (0.1 )     (506 )     (0.0 )
Interest and investment income
    41       0.0       136       0.0  
Income from continuing operations before income taxes
    176,397       11.6       169,127       11.6  
Income tax expense
    66,372       4.4       62,939       4.3  
Income from continuing operations
    110,025       7.2       106,188       7.3  
Income (loss) from discontinued operations, net of tax expense (benefit) of $20 and ($541), respectively
    30       0.0       (822 )     (0.1 )
Net income
  $ 110,055       7.2     $ 105,366       7.2  
                                 
Earnings per common share - basic (a)
                               
Continuing operations
  $ 1.48             $ 1.30          
Discontinued operations
    0.00               (0.01 )        
    Net income    $ 1.48              1.29           
Earnings per common share - diluted (a)
                               
Continuing operations
  $ 1.46             $ 1.28          
Discontinued operations
    0.00               (0.01 )        
Net income
  $ 1.46             $ 1.27          
                                 
Weighted average common shares outstanding
                               
Basic
    74,504               81,771          
Dilutive effect of share-based awards
    865               1,376          
Diluted
    75,369               83,147          
 
(a)
The earnings per share for Continuing Operations, Discontinued Operations and Net Income are separately calculated in accordance with accounting pronouncements; therefore, the sum of earnings per share for Continuing Operations and Discontinued Operations may differ, due to rounding, from the calculated earnings per share of Net Income.

 
 

 
 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS
(In thousands, except per share data)

   
52 WEEKS ENDED
   
52 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
JANUARY 29, 2011
   
JANUARY 30, 2010
 
           %            %  
   
(Unaudited)
       
                         
                         
Net sales
  $ 4,952,244       100.0     $ 4,726,772       100.0  
Gross margin
    2,012,451       40.6       1,919,306       40.6  
Selling and administrative expenses
    1,576,500       31.8       1,532,356       32.4  
Depreciation expense
    78,606       1.6       74,904       1.6  
Gain on sale of real estate
    0       0.0       (12,964 )     (0.3 )
Operating profit
    357,345       7.2       325,010       6.9  
Interest expense
    (2,573 )     (0.1 )     (1,840 )     (0.0 )
Interest and investment income
    612       0.0       175       0.0  
Income from continuing operations before income taxes
    355,384       7.2       323,345       6.8  
Income tax expense
    132,837       2.7       121,975       2.6  
Income from continuing operations
    222,547       4.5       201,370       4.3  
Loss from discontinued operations, net of tax benefit of $14 and $656, respectively
    (23 )     (0.0 )     (1,001 )     (0.0 )
Net income
  $ 222,524       4.5     $ 200,369       4.2  
                                 
Earnings per common share - basic (a)
                               
Continuing operations
  $ 2.87             $ 2.47          
Discontinued operations
    0.00               (0.01 )        
Net income
  $ 2.87             $ 2.45          
                                 
Earnings per common share - diluted (a)
                               
Continuing operations
  $ 2.83             $ 2.44          
Discontinued operations
    0.00               (0.01 )        
Net income
  $ 2.83             $ 2.42          
                                 
Weighted average common shares outstanding
                               
Basic
    77,596               81,619          
Dilutive effect of share-based awards
    985               1,062          
Diluted
    78,581               82,681          
 
(a)
The earnings per share for Continuing Operations, Discontinued Operations and Net Income are separately calculated in accordance with accounting pronouncements; therefore, the sum of earnings per share for Continuing Operations and Discontinued Operations may differ, due to rounding, from the calculated earnings per share of Net Income.

 
 

 
 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
RECONCILIATION OF NON-GAAP FINANCIAL MEASURES
(In thousands, except per share data)
(Unaudited)

The following table reconciles selling and administrative expenses, selling and administrative expense rate, operating profit, operating profit rate, income tax expense, effective income tax rate, income from continuing operations, net income, diluted earnings per share from continuing operations, and diluted earnings per share for the fourth quarter of 2009 and year-to-date 2009 (GAAP financial measures) to adjusted selling and administrative expenses, adjusted selling and administrative expense rate, adjusted operating profit, adjusted operating profit rate, adjusted income tax expense, adjusted effective income tax rate, adjusted income from continuing operations, adjusted net income, adjusted diluted earnings per share from continuing operations, and adjusted diluted earnings per share (non-GAAP financial measures).
 
Fourth quarter of 2009 - Thirteen weeks ended January 30, 2010
 
   
As reported
   
Adjustment to exclude legal settlement
   
As Adjusted
(non-GAAP)
 
Selling and administrative expenses
  $ 416,699     $ (4,000 )   $ 412,699  
Selling and administrative expense rate
    28.5 %     (0.3 %)     28.2 %
Operating profit
    169,497       4,000       173,497  
Operating profit rate
    11.6 %     0.3 %     11.9 %
Income tax expense
    62,939       1,580       64,519  
Effective income tax rate
    37.2 %     0.1 %     37.3 %
Income from continuing operations
    106,188       2,420       108,608  
Net income
    105,366       2,420       107,786  
Diluted earnings per share from  continuing operations
  $ 1.28     $ 0.03     $ 1.31  
Diluted earnings per share
  $ 1.27     $ 0.03     $ 1.30  
 
Year-to-Date 2009 - Fifty-two weeks ended January 30, 2010
 
   
As reported
   
Adjustment to exclude gain on sale of real estate
   
Adjustment to exclude legal settlement
   
As Adjusted
(non-GAAP)
 
Selling and administrative expenses
  $ 1,532,356           $ (4,000 )   $ 1,528,356  
Selling and administrative expense rate
    32.4 %           (0.1 %)     32.3 %
Operating profit
    325,010     $ (12,964 )     4,000       316,046  
Operating profit rate
    6.9 %     (0.3 %)     0.1 %     6.7 %
Income tax expense
    121,975       (4,801 )     1,580       118,754  
Effective income tax rate
    37.7 %     0.1 %     -       37.8 %
Income from continuing operations
    201,370       (8,163 )     2,420       195,627  
Net income
    200,369       (8,163 )     2,420       194,626  
Diluted earnings per share from  continuing operations
  $ 2.44     $ (0.10 )   $ 0.03     $ 2.37  
Diluted earnings per share
  $ 2.42     $ (0.10 )   $ 0.03     $ 2.35  
 
The adjusted selling and administrative expenses, adjusted selling and administrative expense rate, adjusted operating profit, adjusted operating profit rate, adjusted income tax expense, adjusted effective income tax rate, adjusted income from continuing operations, adjusted net income, adjusted diluted earnings per share from continuing operations, and adjusted diluted earnings per share are “non-GAAP financial measures” as that term is defined by Rule 101 of Regulation G (17 CFR Part 244) and Item 10 of Regulation S-K (17 CFR Part 229). These non-GAAP financial measures exclude from the most directly comparable financial measures calculated and presented in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America (“GAAP”) a pretax gain on the sale of real estate of $12,964 ($8,163, net of tax) and a pretax expense for a legal settlement  agreement of $4,000 ($2,420, net of tax).
 
Our management believes that the disclosure of these non-GAAP financial measures provides useful information to investors because the non-GAAP financial measures present an alternative and appropriate method for measuring our operating performance, excluding certain items included in the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.  Our management uses these non-GAAP financial measures, along with the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, in evaluating our operating performance.
 
 
 

 
 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS
(In thousands)

   
13 WEEKS ENDED
   
13 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
January 29, 2011
   
January 30, 2010
 
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
Net cash provided by operating activities
  $ 279,041     $ 252,089  
                 
Net cash used in investing activities
    (23,438 )     (16,797 )
                 
Net cash (used in) provided by financing activities
    (128,844 )     2,534  
                 
Increase in cash and cash equivalents
    126,759       237,826  
Cash and cash equivalents:
               
Beginning of period
    50,780       45,907  
End of period
  $ 177,539     $ 283,733  

 
 

 
 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS
(In thousands)

   
52 WEEKS ENDED
   
52 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
January 29, 2011
   
January 30, 2010
 
   
(Unaudited)
       
Net cash provided by operating activities
  $ 315,257     $ 392,026  
                 
Net cash used in investing activities
    (114,552 )     (77,937 )
                 
Net cash used in financing activities
    (306,899 )     (65,129 )
                 
(Decrease) increase in cash and cash equivalents
    (106,194 )     248,960  
Cash and cash equivalents:
               
Beginning of period
    283,733       34,773  
End of period
  $ 177,539     $ 283,733  
 
 

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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
 
Tim Johnson
Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR
 
Steve Fishman
Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO
 
Joe Cooper
Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO
 
Chuck Haubiel
Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, Real Estate, Legal, General Counsel

CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
 
Dan Wewer
Raymond James & Assoc. - Analyst
 
Jeff Stein
Soleil Securities - Analyst
 
David Mann
Johnson Rice - Analyst
 
Meredith Adler
Barclays Capital - Analyst
 
Joe Feldman
Telsey Advisory Group - Analyst
 
Patrick McKeever
MKM Partners - Analyst
 
John Zolidis
Buckingham Research Group - Analyst
 
Laura Champine
Cowen and Company - Analyst
 
Peter Keith
JMP Securities - Analyst
 
Anthony Lebiedzinski
Sidoti & Company - Analyst
 
Mark Mandell
ThinkEquity - Analyst

PRESENTATION
 

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Big Lots fourth quarter 2010 teleconference. This call is being recorded. During this session all lines will be muted until the question and answer portion of the call. (Operator Instructions). I will now turn the call over to Tim Johnson, Vice President of Strategic Planning and Investor Relations.


Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR
 
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Thanks, Dave. And thank you everyone for joining us for our fourth quarter conference call. With me here in Columbus today are Steve Fishman, our Chairman and CEO, Joe Cooper, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Chuck Haubiel, Executive Vice President, Real Estate, Legal, and General Counsel.

Before we get started, I would like to remind you that any forward-looking statements we make on today's call involve risks and uncertainties, and are subject to our Safe Harbor Provisions as stated in our press release and our SEC filings. Actual results can differ materially from those in our forward-looking statements. As highlighted in this morning's press release, our Q4 2009 results contained one item, and full year fiscal 2009 results contained two items in continuing operations that we believe were not directly related to the Company's ongoing operations. We have provided non-GAAP reconciliations for both the fourth quarter and the full year fiscal 2009, and those schedules are attached to today's press release. Since we do not view these items as relevant to the ongoing operations of business, the balance of our comments and comparisons between 2010 and last year's results will be based on 2009 non-GAAP results from continuing operations.

With that, I will turn it over to Steve.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Thanks TJ, and good morning everybody. In terms of merchandising the best performing categories continue to be our discretionary higher-ticket businesses... Furniture, Home, and Seasonal each posted mid-single digit comps against tough comparisons from a year ago. We were very encouraged by the continued strength in our Furniture business up against double-digit comps, and especially given the fact that there have been changes in tax refund loans and the corresponding impact on our January business. Although it may not seem like a holiday or Christmas business, we continue to find additional opportunities to drive Furniture during Q4 and the holiday time period. We're well positioned heading into 2011, and I continue to believe that Furniture may be one of the largest growth opportunities we have for the future.

Seasonal Christmas Trim performed well during November and December, particularly in Lighting and Trees, where our "how high is high" strategies delivered upside sales and margin dollars. The merchant team delivered extreme value and great quality and the customer responded. This is an encouraging sign when we look forward to Spring and our opportunities in Lawn and Garden.

Also in the discretionary part of our business, our Home category was a leader in the store. Newness and better quality goods and deeper inventory levels for key items worked well for us this holiday season.

In contrast, other parts of our business were off to last year,namely Consumables and Toys. As anticipated, our Consumables business comped down to last year. On our last call, I indicated to you that I believed that we were not executing up to our full potential and that we were working quickly to get this business back on track. I like what I am seeing in recent weeks. The phones have been lively of late with deals, and some of the new programs we have been developing should start to appear in stores later in Q1 and Q2, so although we have seen some encouraging signs, real change will take some time on into the first half of 2011.

Our Toys business was challenged during the holiday season as it appears to have been for most major discount retailers. It was very competitive from a pricing standpoint, which is not unusual, but in my view, this was not our issue. Our customers continue to shop toys differently each year, and we need to change, both in our approach and our assortment. As you have heard me say on a number of occasions, if we are not changing, we run the risk of falling behind. We will execute a different Toys strategy for next holiday. That I am confident of.

We took a major step forward in Q4 and in 2010 both in the pace and quality of new store openings. As Chuck will touch on in a moment, the productivity of our recent new store openings, make this is a key part of our long-term potential of this business.

From a store's perspective it was our best executed holiday season yet. Our Ready for Business initiatives have improved the shopability of our stores and hopefully left a more favorable impression of Big Lots to encourage more frequent visits from our customers.

In terms of Marketing, we continue to test and learn from our Buzz Club Rewards program, which now totals over 7 million members.

In summary, we were pleased with the outcome of Q4 in a difficult environment. Total sales for Q4 of over $1.5 billion, representing an increase of nearly 4%, driven by the strength of our new stores. We generated record operating profit of $177 million. We achieved record earnings per share of $1.46 per diluted share, an increase of 11% over last year's record performance. We successfully opened 27 new stores, bringing us to a total of 80 new stores for the year, and we managed our business very prudently, and ended the year with over $175 million of cash and no debt. Now Joe is going to give you some of the details on the quarter and our expectations for 2011.
 
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Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Thanks, Steve and good morning everyone.

Sales for the fourth quarter were $1.519 billion, an increase of 3.8% over the $1.463 billion we reported for the fourth quarter of last year. Comparable store sales were flat.

For Q4, operating profit dollars were $177.2 million, an increase of approximately $4 million compared to last year.

In terms of gross margin, our increase in dollars reflected higher sales, partially offset by a lower rate. As anticipated, our rate of 40.8% was down versus last year, with the decline resulting from lower IMU on certain of our holiday strategies and higher domestic freight costs due to rising fuel costs and higher carrier rates. Partially offsetting these challenges in the rate was a favorable merchandise mix of higher margin Seasonal and Homes sales, a lower shrink accrual rate, and lower markdowns. Total expense dollars were $442.8 million, an increase of $11.5 million or 2.7% compared to last year. The increase in overall dollars was reflective of net store growth of 37 stores compared to the prior year. The fourth quarter SG&A rate was 29.2%, or down 30 basis points to last year with leverage coming from Store Payroll, Distribution and Transportation, lower bonus expense, and lower stock compensation expense due to the acceleration of prior years' restricted stock awards during 4Q 2009.

Net interest expense was $0.8 million for the quarter compared to $0.4 million last year.

Our tax rate for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 was 37.6% compared to 37.3% last year.

In total, for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010, we reported income from continuing operations of $110.0 million, or $1.46 per diluted share, compared to income from continuing operations of $108.6 million, or $1.31 per diluted share a year ago.

This result was better than our previously communicated guidance of $1.36 to $1.42 per diluted share which was based on comps in the range of flat to plus 2%. Since our actual comps were flat, it probably makes sense to reconcile the $1.46 to the lower end of our guidance of $1.36, which as I mentioned did assume a flat comp. The $0.10 beat was $0.07 from operating profit favorability, both in gross margin and in expenses, and the remaining $0.03 was principally from a lower than anticipated tax rate. The lower than anticipated effective tax rate was principally driven by a favorable state earnings mix and the related impact on state income tax, as well as an unexpected good news related to settlement activity.

Turning to the balance sheet, inventory ended the fourth quarter of fiscal 2010 at $762 million, up 1% per store compared to last year. So after timing differences for most of the fall due to intentionally moving up delivery dates on import receipts, we ended the year with inventory up only 1% per store, which is generally in line with how we planned to enter 2011.

Cash flow which we define as cash provided by operating activities less cash used in investing activities, increased by $20 million for the quarter compared to last year. This was largely attributable to the timing of inventory receipts, net of the related decline in accounts payable leverage, as well as higher CapEx related to the 27 new store openings in November this year versus 9 last year. Cash flow for the full year totaled $201 million which was consistent with our guidance of $200 million. We ended the year with $178 million of cash and cash equivalents compared to $284 million last year. This decrease in cash was a result of our share repurchase activity, partially offset by our cash flow generated during the year.

In terms of our stock repurchase program, we did invest $342 million during fiscal 2010 to repurchase company stock; $150 million under the ASR program and $192 million through opportunistic repurchases. With the final settlement of the ASR completed in Q4, the total amount of shares repurchased under the ASR was 4.5 million shares. Combining the ASR and our opportunistic activity of 6.0 million shares, our total number of shares repurchased during fiscal 2010 was 10.5 million, or approximately 13% of our outstanding shares, at a weighted-average price of $32.74 per share. As of the end of fiscal 2010, we had $58 million remaining under our current authorization to repurchase shares opportunistically in the open market.

For the fourth quarter, capital expenditures totaled $24 million compared to $17 million last year. Depreciation expense for the quarter was $21.1 million, an increase of $2.5 million. For the year, CapEx was $108 million, compared to our guidance of approximately $115 million with a portion of the variance shifting into our 2011 plans that I will address in a moment. Also for the year, Depreciation totaled $78.6 million.
 
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Moving onto 2011 and guidance, overall we are planning 2011 EPS to be in the range of $3.05 to $3.15 per diluted share. That is an increase of 8% to 11% compared to 2010's income from continuing operations of $2.83 per diluted share. Our 2011 plan calls for a comparable store sales increase of 1% to 2% and a total sales increase in the range of 5% to 6% compared to fiscal 2010.

At this level of sales, we are estimating a 7% to 10% increase in operating profit dollars. We anticipate our operating profit rate will be in the range of 7.3% to 7.5% which is higher than last year's rate of 7.2%. We expect our gross margin rate will be relatively flat the last year, and the operating margin leverage will come from a lower expense rate. With this model we estimate a flat to slightly positive comp is needed to leverage expenses.

Specifically in terms of the gross margin rate, 2011's rate is expected to be similar to 2010 as lower-anticipated markdowns and a favorable merchandise mix are expected to be offset by continued freight pressures and potential commodity and labor cost increases.

Our 2011 expense leverage potential comes from several different sources, namely Advertising, Utilities, Distribution & Transportation and Store Payroll. Partially offsetting this leverage, we are forecasting higher Depreciation dollars and deleverage in Rent and Occupancy costs. In terms of Advertising, you will recall we have tested and executed reductions in the distribution of print advertising for the last 12 to 18 months. We believe further opportunities exist to reduce print distribution, and we will continue to test further ideas of reductions in 2011.

Next in terms of Utilities, we made a sizable investment in energy management systems or EMS in 2010 and will make further investments in 2011. This is another example of an initiative that we have tested over time and have determined is a good use of capital. Stores with EMS have been averaging in the neighborhood of a 15% savings in utility costs. We also expect to generate leverage in Store Payroll and Distribution & Transportation costs as the dollar growth in these areas are forecasted to be at a slower rate than our anticipated sales growth. So clearly there are a number of different sources of expense leverage being executed in 2011; however, there will be areas of the business where costs will increase and deleverage... areas like Occupancy, Depreciation, and equity-related expenses.

In terms of Occupancy, we expect slight deleverage as we open more new stores and stores in better demographic locations which require higher rent. New stores are the best investment we can make with our cash, and our new stores opened in 2010 performed well, leaving us very encouraged about the future. However, new stores typically deleverage on the Rent line in their initial years based on the incremental preopening costs, and the fact that recent new store openings have been trending similar or slightly below market productivity but do so on a slightly higher rent structure. This is included in the model we are providing.

Depreciation expense is forecasted in the $90 million to $95 million range, against $78.6 million in 2010. Higher depreciation is primarily due to store growth, both 2011 openings and the significant number of stores opened in the October/November 2010 timeframe that are now being depreciated for the full year in 2011. Additionally, our commitment to maintenance capital, our investment in EMS, and to a certain extent some carryover of capital spending from 2010 to 2011, will also cause an increasing amount of depreciation in 2011.

Finally, equity-related expenses will deleverage given our current share price, and assuming a new equity grant for 2011.

Filling out the rest of the P&L for 2011, we expect net interest expense of approximately $1 million, and the effective income tax rate is planned to be in the neighborhood of 38.0% to 39.0%.

For the year, capital expenditures are expected to be approximately $125 million to $130 million. Maintenance capital is estimated to be approximately $40 million, which covers our stores, DCs, and the general office. We are planning a little more capital here than normal, given first as I mentioned earlier, our capital spending for maintenance finished 2010 slightly under our plan, so we are providing for that capital and those projects in 2011. Second, higher store capital, specifically around replacing HVAC units in certain locations, and finally, the maintenance capital supporting our five owned DCs is up slightly to last year. From a real estate perspective, new store capital is estimated at approximately $50 million to cover opening 90 new stores. Investments in certain other strategic initiatives will represent approximately $35 million to $40 million of CapEx in 2011. These dollars will be focused on our implementation of SAP inventory systems, retrofitting and refreshing a portion of our store base, and continued investment in energy management systems to save on utility costs.

We estimate this financial model for 2011 will result in approximately $205 million of cash flow.

Finally, we are estimating our diluted share count to be approximately 76 million shares for fiscal 2011, down from $79 million for fiscal 2010. This expected reduction results from last year's repurchase efforts throughout the year, partially offset by an estimated amount of option exercise activity and the anticipation of a new equity grant for 2011.
 
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Turning to the first quarter, we are estimating earnings to be in the range of $0.76 to $0.81 per diluted share, a 12% to 19% increase compared to $0.68 per diluted share last year. This model reflects operating profit growth in the high-single to low-double digits, a tax rate towards the higher end of our annual guidance range, and a diluted share count in the range of 75 million to 76 million.

This level of EPS is based on comp sales in the range of slightly positive to slightly negative and a total sales increase of 2% to 4%. In the month of February, sales were on plan, a plan which was below last year due to an intentional shift of our semiannual Friends and Family event from February to March this year, and the fact that February last year was our strongest monthly comp of the quarter as it was up nearly double digits.

Now I will turn it over to Chuck for an update on real estate.


Chuck Haubiel - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, Real Estate, Legal, General Counsel

Thanks, Joe. During the fourth quarter, we opened 27 stores and closed 18, leaving us with 1,398 stores and total selling square footage of 30.2 million at the end of the quarter.

For fiscal 2010, we opened a total of 80 stores and closed 43 stores for a net addition of 37 stores. Of the 80 new store openings, 33 were A-type locations, with the balance in what we consider to be more traditional centers. Of the 43 store closings, 23 were relocations and were either older stores being relocated to higher traffic areas in better strip centers, or stores too small for a full-sized furniture department that were relocated to a larger space to accommodate our full furniture assortment.

The success of our new store programs for both 2010 and 2009 has led us to target a higher number of store openings for 2011. Our plans for 2011 call for 90 new stores, and our expectation for 45 store closings, equaling net store growth of approximately 45 stores, or a little over 3%. We feel comfortable with 90 store openings at this point and are making a very concerted effort to open the best stores we can as early in the year as possible.

Looking at the breakout of types of stores, we expect to open 60 to 65 traditional locations and 25 to 30 new A-type locations.

In terms of traditional locations, the availability remains good, and we are certainly an attractive potential tenant as our overall credit profile and business model remains strong. Traditional locations opened in 2010 have performed very well and are trending near Company average sales productivity with forecasted cash flow in the neighborhood of $300,000 per store in their first full fiscal year. While it is still early, and we are still trying to better understand the most important attributes of success, the results of the last few months have been encouraging to us.

In terms of A-type locations, we see the potential for adding 25 to 30 stores in those locations this year, bringing the total to be in the range of 70 to 75 stores by the end of fiscal 2011. Remember, A-locations are not just defined as our highest volume stores, they are the best retail centers in a given market, often power strip centers with strong co-tenants, strong population density, or household income, or all of the above. In many of these locations we are seeing a new customer because we are now in their shopping pattern or retail trade area.

For the A-stores opened in 2010, their financial performance is trending above their pro-forma from a sales, profit, and cash flow standpoint. Just as important to us is the fact that the eight A locations opened as a test in 2009 continue to perform very well, albeit only eight stores, in their first actual fiscal year of operation, they averaged over $4 million in sales and over $180 per foot, while generating around $300,000 per store in cash as well. Again these results are actuals for the first full fiscal year. We believe this level of performance could lead to a very profitable growth going forward, and these results to date have exceeded our financial return targets.

As we have discussed on recent calls, we are always testing and learning in real estate, and in some situations, the result is success, and the direction is clear, like the A-stores for instance. In other areas, we still aren't there yet and more work needs to be done to fully understand the potential. This explains where we are on the small store strategy, and to a certain extent our store refresh program... still work to be done.

Now back to Steve for some closing remarks.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Thanks, guys. We have given you a fair amount of information today about how we finished 2010 and what our expectations for 2011 are, and how the real estate growth strategy is progressing. The financial model is solid... inventory management, becoming more efficient with SG&A, and generating significant cash flow... but I want to see the top line moving a little bit more vibrantly, and that is where we are most focused for the beginning of 2011.
 
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From a merchandise content, our focus on improving our Consumables offering by improving our value proposition, an expansion of some of our captive label programs, and our expansion within international food, should provide some excitement in our single largest category and drive footsteps to the store throughout the year.

In terms of marketing, as I mentioned earlier, we now have a Rewards membership of over 7 million members to work with and market directly. We have been successful building a large database of customer information and have learned a great deal along the way in the past 12 months. Now, we have moved into the testing phase, and are attempting to develop strategic programs to begin to leverage the investment we have made in our Rewards loyalty program.

From a store's perspective, we continue to make progress with our Ready for Business standards. It is store cleanliness, recovery standards, and good merchandise presentation to make the store easy to shop. It is also customer service... meet, greet, and smile.

Finally, our real estate growth strategy particularly in A locations is exposing our brand to a different customer segment, and we are very encouraged with the results. These are just a few ideas, but we believe there are many different levers to potentially drive comps for the foreseeable future.

To summarize and then go to a brief Q&A. Up against some very challenging comparisons from last year, we posted record fourth quarter earnings. Our discretionary categories which differentiate us from other discounters have been the best performing part of our store for the last several quarters. The deal flow continues to be solid. We have a history of fixing and turning around any underperforming aspects in our business, and I absolutely expect we will see the same result with Consumables in 2011. We are forecasting a flat to slightly positive leverage point for SG&A, and fully expect SG&A as a rate of sales will continue to trend lower for the foreseeable future. We are continuing to make investments necessary to be successful, whether it is investing in systems, putting capital to work in our stores and distribution facilities, or hiring talent where we need it. We are growing our store base and have many years of growth ahead. We generate lots of cash and invest it wisely. We have a reason to exist with the customer, and a defensible niche, each of which is very key in retail, and we happen to believe that great value will never go out of style.

With that I will turn it back over to TJ.
 

Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR

Thanks, Steve. Dan, we would like to go ahead and open up the lines for questions at this time.

QUESTION AND ANSWER
 

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions). And our first question will come from Dan Wewer with Raymond James.


Dan Wewer - Raymond James & Assoc. - Analyst

Looks like the Company was very active in the share repurchase effort during the first three quarters of the year, but it doesn't appear that there were any shares repurchased during the fourth quarter. Was there anything that evolved during the period that resulted in the company being quiet on the buyback activity in that time period?


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

 
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Yes, this is Joe. I will take that. It is simply we invested $342 million on a share repurchase program that was relatively new, took out 10.5 million shares and felt like that was the right amount of shares to execute in 2010.


Dan Wewer - Raymond James & Assoc. - Analyst

And then in the year FY 2011 guidance, there doesn't appear to be any meaningful buybacks baked in?


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

No, and that is consistent with last year. As you recall what we did last year is we baked in the ASR. We typically have never baked in opportunistic share repurchases.


Dan Wewer - Raymond James & Assoc. - Analyst

And one other question, on your first quarter guidance, the flattish, same-store sales, total revenues up low-single digits, but you are talking about a 9% to 11% increase in operating profit dollars. With that type of same-store sales growth it would be difficult to get any meaningful expense leverage, so what is driving the big increase in operating profit dollars in Q1?


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Well, in the first quarter it is expense leverage.


Dan Wewer - Raymond James & Assoc. - Analyst

But if your same-store sales are flat or negative, how would you lever SG&A?


Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR

Dan, it is TJ. There are a couple of different things. I would just point you back to last year first quarter where we had a blow-away quarter and accrued a significant amount of bonus expense on the 6% comp and the outperformance and operating profits, so even though comps are expected to be slightly negative to slightly positive, we are managing the things that we can control, and we will have some level of benefit in terms of lower bonus expense. Obviously working against that are going to be the things that Joe mentioned, both Occupancy and Depreciation, so we feel very good about the expense model for 2011, but obviously we have got a little bit of near-term visibility to Q1 as well.


Dan Wewer - Raymond James & Assoc. - Analyst

Great. Thank you. And good luck.


Operator

Next we will go to Jeff Stein with Soleil Securities.


Jeff Stein - Soleil Securities - Analyst

I am wondering, are you guys at all concerned that perhaps the window could be closing on the A-type locations, in terms of availability, what I am hearing is that there is not a great deal of new construction going on out there, and things are beginning to firm up in existing centers, and wondering, A, do you think that is correct, and B, if so, why not open more, A locations this year while the window is still open?


Chuck Haubiel - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, Real Estate, Legal, General Counsel
 
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Jeff it is Chuck, I will take that. I think first of all you are right from the standpoint of what you are hearing about real estate, without a lot of new development, I am not going to say the window is closing, but what was available a year ago in the form of maybe Linens or Circuits are starting to dry up. Having said that, there have been a couple of additional retailers that have either recently filed or are pretty strong rumored to file that could open up some space in additional A centers.

The second thing, and I think that we have talked about this before that we are really starting to get traction on, is making sure that with the new A centers, we have got new relationships with the developers, and as they are thinking about where they are going to be adding a footprint, they are also thinking about us being a part of that. So I think that there will always be an ebb and flow if you will, from what is out there from existing, but when the new market, the same thing that is causing the landlords to feel a little better, and maybe get more aggressive on what they ask for rent, for backfilling those spots, they are also getting more aggressive about thinking about adding some new square footage.


Jeff Stein - Soleil Securities - Analyst

Got it. Steve, you alluded in your opening comments to a different approach, and different assortments in Toys for 2011. I am wondering if you could perhaps elaborate a little bit on that?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

I guess I will make a general statement and then really not get into it in too much of detail because we are finalizing plans. My opinion of the Toy business is it has shifted pretty dramatically, and what the consumer wants today is electronics. That is being very simplistic, but that is the reality. Things that plug in, Things that go in your ear, things that you can plug into the television. And the traditional older days of games and toys, and boys toys and girls toys, and plush and those kinds of things become more and more of a challenge going forward, and I don't think we reacted fast enough to the kinds of things technologically that children and their parents are looking for going forward in the future, and I can promise you, we are all over it, and we will have a very exciting toy assortment to offer the consumer what they want, not just in the fourth quarter, but sooner than later. Because the toy business, although it is not nearly as large, clearly in the first, second, and third quarter to us, there is still a lot of business to be done for us, and we make a lot of money in that business. And we will be the player and the dominant leader in those items and classifications going into the third and fourth quarter of next year. I promise you that.


Jeff Stein - Soleil Securities - Analyst

Got it. Thank you.


Operator

Next we will hear from David Mann with Johnson Rice.


David Mann - Johnson Rice - Analyst

Thank you, congratulations. My question is regarding advertising. Can you give us a sense on the absolute spend in 2011 how will that compare to 2010, and perhaps when you talk about removing or changing from print distribution, can you give us an idea of how that distribution has changed, in terms of either number of markets, or number of fliers that are dropped?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

I think both of us, Joe you may want to address if you want to. I can tell you David that marketing as a total dollar spend was down to the lowest it had been in 2010 we were under $100 million for the first time.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO
 
Planning it up slightly this year, negligible dollars so we fully expect it to leverage.
 
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Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

But it won't be up as high as overall sales.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

No. No. Flattish to slightly up in dollars.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

What we have done, David and what we continue to do is twofold, number one, our print advertising is the number of preprints continues to be the same. I think it is 27, but if you really need that number I can get it to you. I am almost positive. The distribution that we have done with all of the testing and understanding the number of preprints we need to drop by marketplace we have become better and better at.

And that is a mix of just understanding what kind of response we are getting, what kind of leverage we are getting from the newspapers that we are distributing with, and the Buzz Club membership, because as we continue to increase the Rewards program by store location, which clearly we understand, we are continuing to drop off some level of distribution on print advertising, so that is where the majority of the savings is. As a percent to total the media part of our business, which is television and includes internet, which to you probably is Buzz Club, probably is over 45% of the total spend, which a few years ago it was about 40% of our spend.

So we have gone from around 60/40 to around 55/45, and that number from a print standpoint will continue to leverage, or continue to drop down, and media spend will continue to increase, but overall as a percent to total, it is now under 2% if I am not mistaken, which is the first time we have taken it under 2% as a total spend. So we think we are being very judicious when it comes to the spend and marketing, and really understanding how to do it, and really defining. A lot of things are going on, and now that we have the 7 million-plus mailable Rewards members and targeting them for the things that they are spending, and on what the classifications of businesses they are interested in shopping us for on a consistent basis, and those kinds of things, and the cost associated with that is incrementally much less than it would be from a television or a print standpoint.


David Mann - Johnson Rice - Analyst

Can you talk a little bit about the performance in the Rewards program, in terms of, let's say how that customer spends versus a customer who doesn't spend on the program?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Sure.


David Mann - Johnson Rice - Analyst

And what percentage of sales, maybe are coming from that program?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

We won't comment specifically on that, but just to say it is a very important part of our business, and a growing part of our business. The overall sales though of that Rewards customer, number one, in average spend is probably double our average sales check. It is close to $40, versus over $20. So that is the average, so if you are talking about a non-Rewards customer spending $19 to $20, and our Rewards customer spending about $38 or $39. So that is pretty significant to us.

The frequency is much more consistent, and clearly the loyalty associated with it, as far as what percent of total it is. It continues to increase. It continues to be important to us, and that is what we want. I mean that is the strategy, because the cost associated with communicating with your core loyalty customer who shops you the most frequently, and has the largest spend, clearly is an advantage to the future of the growth of the business.
 
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David Mann - Johnson Rice - Analyst

And then one last question, on the performance of your A-stores relative to the traditional stores, it sounded like the cash flow performance is relatively similar. Is that something that you would expect to continue over the life of the ramp. Or would you expect there to be more diversion, and much higher cash flows from the A-stores?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

It is so whirly, I am not sure that we can answer that question realistically at this particular point, David. I can only tell you, we are extremely encouraged by the A-locations' performances. We are really trying to understand them. I think Chuck gave you color on the first full year of the stores that were opened for over 12 months, but the number was eight stores, but the ones that we have opened since then in 2010, part of the issue is not only did the A-stores do well, but the traditional stores performed well, and we really are deep diving to try to understand what we did that is the secret sauce of continuing to want to do that going forward.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Hey, David, this is Joe. I will just add, clearly we view an opportunity in those A-locations because of the co-tenancy and the population density to kind of test how high is high? So is the upward potential of those greater? I mean, you can certainly make a case, and we are optimistic that will be the case.

Also in some of those A-locations the population around them may not know us as well, because we are new to those particular locations, so a case could be made that the comp delta to average store comp will be greater going through the first five years, but again as Steve said, we are early and we are learning, but we are certainly encouraged and feel very good about the opportunities those locations give us.


David Mann - Johnson Rice - Analyst

Well, thanks for the additional detail, I appreciate it. Take care.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Thanks, David.


Operator

Next question we will go to Meredith Adler with Barclays Capital.


Meredith Adler - Barclays Capital - Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks very much. Steve, you mentioned briefly about more international products on the Consumables side. Maybe you could talk about that a bit more and maybe just talk about if there is anything else you expect to do with Consumables, and what percentage the international could end up becoming?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

I will answer that one quickly. I won't tell you what percent international can become, because we are really new in it. There are probably seven or eight initiatives that we are working really aggressively on in Consumables to get that business going, and I will mention, as I mentioned before at least at a very high level, that the Consumables business has certainly been more encouraging in the most recent days, I guess is the best way to put it. January and February, also and of course the first week of March, although we are just into the first week of March, Consumables is performing much better as a percent to total, than it had been performing last year. So we are certainly encouraged by that.
 
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There are a number of issues that we have worked on. First off, if you have been in the stores recently, and/or if you haven't been, take a look at something that we are highlighting or trying to aggressively increase transactions and show great value at the same time. You can call it a wall of values, you can call it anything you want to. But we have got 10 to 15 Consumables items that are either going to be in the front of the store when you walk in, or in front of the registers for one reason or another, and those 10 to 12 items, because they are selling so quickly first off, give extreme value offerings. They are all throughout Consumables, and they are turning quickly and turning probably on a weekly basis.

The International Food Fair thing, is going to be supported by 12 to 16 feet worth of European gourmet jams and cookies, and pastas, and condiments. We started working on that in the third into the fourth quarter of last year, because the specialty part of our food business, we saw a real opportunity, number one it is a higher average unit retail, a higher ticket, but it is also something our customer has been coming to us and looking for from us, unique different-type items that can continue to set us apart.

So we are going to see that coming into the first quarter, and in fact you will probably see it in a couple of ads featured in mid-to-late March, and it will be executed probably within the next week or two, then we continue to focus on the Buzz Club member, who is a particularly Consumable member, and we have been targeting internet blowouts to them on specials, in Consumable items like water and carbonated beverages, and paper products, and all those kinds of things, selectively encouraging them to come into the stores.

The initial fresh finds or our private label assortment is just coming into the stores at this particular point. We really haven't talked much about that. Beverages, salted snacks, olive oils, things like that, that are unique and different, but of great value, so if you take a look at that, you should see the extreme value signing that we are implementing in and around the Consumables areas, and that kind of classification of business.

And then we have got a couple of spring events coming up that clearly we wouldn't talk about at this particular point, but expanded assortments in the storage business, which is quite good for us right now, a new stick program that is coming in, and then the front of the store, which is the key critical piece of transaction counts. We have a new cash wrap program with high-impulse items that came in February. We have a new incremental gum and mint-fixture program coming in the month of March, and we are going to have a new impulse snack program in the month of April, so our feet are not touching the ground when it comes to Consumables and when it comes to transactions.


Meredith Adler - Barclays Capital - Analyst

Thanks very much. And then I have a question, this is probably for Joe, about share buybacks. I understand it is not in your guidance. Is there any reason to believe that with $200 million of free cash flow, and $175 million of cash on the balance sheet that you won't be doing some additional share buybacks this year?


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

That is something we discuss with the Board of Directors, so I really can't comment on it right now.


Meredith Adler - Barclays Capital - Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Thank you.


Operator

And next we will go to Joe Feldman with Telsey Advisory Group.
 
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Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory Group - Analyst

Hi, good morning guys, congratulations on the quarter. I wanted to ask a little bit about what you are seeing in the consumer out there. It seems like your discretionary businesses continue to do well, Furniture, Hardlines, some of those, and just are you seeing any difference in spending? Are you seeing any difference in the kind of consumer, or the way people are paying for things, in terms of tender that would give you any increased confidence that the consumer is starting to shop a little more frequently or starting to come back?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Honestly, Joe, we haven't seen any change other than I kind of alluded to the fact that the tax refund to the consumer is down about 20% so far this year, so tax refunds are coming a little bit later, so our expectations are that maybe as good as we feel about the Furniture business particularly, and then of course any of the other high ticket areas like Seasonal, we only think that it should get better. I will tell you that it has been unbelievably consistent, you and I personally have had this conversation. You have heard me say it on many occasions. Early season, highest ticket items, best-quality items sell quickly. It just has been so consistent, it is amazing.

Our Lawn and Garden business, which again, I want to first say it is very early, which I always say at the beginning of the season on the calls, has really started out well, and it is all of the high-ticket items, the most expensive set, the most expensive gazebo. Those are the first things selling. Consumers continue to furnish their homes with the upholstery business, actually the case good part of our business, which is the bedroom part of our business, is a little bit better than it has been in a while. So we are real excited about that. They are not afraid to spend money, as long as there is great value associated with it.


Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory Group - Analyst

Got it.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Hey, Joe. It is Joe.


Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory Group - Analyst

Yes.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

I would just add the tender mix has stayed very, very constant, debit is up like a point, but you would expect that. So no change in tender mix.


Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory Group - Analyst

Got it. That is helpful, thanks guys. And if I could just follow-up with another one, can you remind us or let us know how you are thinking about gas prices? Obviously, I understand from the expense side, you talked about that, but given all of this turmoil in the Middle East, say gas prices continue to rise at a little more rapid rate, how should we think about sales going forward? Do people consolidate trips, or do you see that decrease in spending, or is that not going to impact?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Joe, from an expense standpoint, we do the best job we possibly can, but we absolutely as you can understand have no control over that. The only good part of that is that everyone that we compete against has the exact same problem.
 
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From a shopping standpoint, I can only tell you that we are planning a decent spring season, and a pretty aggressive fall season that we will talk about of course as we come into the third and fourth quarter, but we are certainly not hesitating on the growth of our business, because there may or may not be anticipated trips because of the cost of fuel. We have seen this before, and I just think we will see it again. We are not economists, what we are is retailers, so we plan our business to the best of our ability based upon what we can control and then as things fluctuate around it, we do the best of our ability of trying to adjust our businesses based upon occurrences. We did a pretty good job in the third and fourth quarter, even though I didn't like the top line, of delivering the bottom line based upon some lack of sales at a high level, but we are good at that, and we will continue to be good at that, but I don't want to stop the process of the growth opportunities we think we have.


Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory Group - Analyst

Got it. That is helpful. Thanks guys. Good luck with the quarter.


Operator

In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question. Our next question will come from Patrick McKeever with MKM Partners.


Patrick McKeever - MKM Partners - Analyst

Thank you. Good morning everyone.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Good morning.


Patrick McKeever - MKM Partners - Analyst

Wondering if you might talk even broadly about the whole rising cost issue that so many retailers are talking about right now and what kind of an impact you see from costs, rising product costs, and I know you have talked to it to some extent via the guidance, but maybe you could talk about just pure product costs, and what you are seeing there, and whether or not you feel like you will have some pricing power to pass along some of the higher costs that are likely in 2011, how you feel just relative to your other discount store competitors, in terms of navigating around these higher costs, those sorts of things? Thanks.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

We have the same problems, Patrick, everybody else does. We are seeing cost increases on everything that we develop ourselves from overseas, but it has been no different from the last six years. As prices go up, we just continue to put more value into product and offer different quality. The gazebos this year are the perfect example. This must be the third or fourth year in a row that we have seen cost increases because of either the top pieces of it, because of fabrication, or cotton prices, or the steel pieces of it, or metal pieces of it, but we just offer a better value to the customer and the customer tends to understand that.

Remember the other piece of our business is, we price off of everybody else. So if prices go up, as long as our value equation is 10% to 50% below what everybody else is doing, we continue to do a good job as far as that goes. Incrementally I will tell you sometimes when prices go up, it can be a good thing for our business, and we try not to worry about it. We don't like it. I know there is a tremendous amount of talk about it.

I spent myself personally, about two weeks in about four or five different markets between the Electronics show here domestically, and then I spent about eight or nine days in Singapore, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Shanghai, and I was on the ground and saw exactly what was going on. There is a lot of confusion between manufacturers and retailers on costs associated with commodities, but I think we have a really professional group of people, particularly from a global sourcing standpoint, and we will be as aggressive as we have to be, maybe even more so, because of some of the price increases some of the other people will have to absorb on products going forward. Remember, half of the business, or about half of the business is still a closeout or an advantageous buy, so we will be buying it as best as we possibly can, and being priced underneath all of our competitors.
 
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Patrick McKeever - MKM Partners - Analyst

Thank you, Steve.


Operator

And next we will here from John Zolidis with Buckingham Research.


John Zolidis - Buckingham Research Group - Analyst

Hi, good morning.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Good morning, John.


John Zolidis - Buckingham Research Group - Analyst

Question on the ultimate size of the chain, in terms of how many stores you think you can have. Have you tried to put together an estimate on that? And what would be the determining factor in your opinion? Is it the size of the closeout market, would that determine how many stores you could potentially have?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

No, it is not. John, we have said all along, the infrastructure can handle, that we have right now, at least 1,800-plus stores, and we have always felt based upon demographics, and population density that we can handle 2,000-plus stores. Okay. It might be slightly higher than that. It is absolutely not a deterrent because of closeouts that are available. Remember, half of our business is not closeouts, and we develop it and whether I like it or not has been the strongest piece of business, probably in the last 24 months on a consistent basis. That is not closeout.

Number two, the other piece of the business, and I can only describe it is if you spend time in our office, we turn down much more than we actually buy. There has never been at any time economically good times or bad times an inconsistent flow of closeout availability. It may vary from industry to industry at times, but never on the overall basis.


John Zolidis - Buckingham Research Group - Analyst

Thank you.


Operator

And next we will go to Laura Champine with Cowen and Company.


Laura Champine - Cowen and Company - Analyst

Good morning, guys. You talked about a desire to grow sales faster, and I share that hope for Big Lots. But when you mentioned leveraging SG&A expenses, advertising I think was the first callout. Are there things that you can do to actually ramp up advertising expenses in creative ways that would drive that comp higher?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO
 
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We are trying to do that, but we are utilizing that in the most cost-effective way. And we are trying to do it via the Buzz Club. We think that is our best opportunity. Costs associated with print is quite high, Laura. To be quite honest with you, and although we get a bigger return on investment, it is not something I am quite encouraged with, and I am not willing to spend the kind of money to add another preprint. I don't think it makes sense. Our customer looks for great value, not that they don't react to a preprint, but I don't think that is probably an advantageous way for us to make an investment to grow the top line. The cost associated with it is dramatic.


Laura Champine - Cowen and Company - Analyst

It feels like the Buzz Club would attract your existing customer. Are there other things you can do just to make sure people are aware of what is inside a Big Lots store, in different kinds of media?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

We are really doing that, Laura, and in fact one of the things that I have talked about recently, probably in the last 12 months is we love our current core loyalty customer, and they continue to grow and spend more and more. It is the infrequent customer that we have really focused on, and we are doing a better job at it.

We actually had some very encouraging feedback from our customer surveys that we do two twice a year, that we just got back the other day from the holiday season, and what I mean by that is the customer who knows us, who shops us, but shops us infrequently, and the crossover of where they are going to and where they are shopping from a competition standpoint, for the first time in a while was at a slower rate, so that was encouraging. What that means is the customer who may want to shop us, and who they shop in the way of competition, shopped those direct competitors at a much slower rate than they did in the past, and that is one of the reasons why we think some of our discretionary businesses grew at a faster rate.

So we are constantly working on ideas, but we think it is all about the deals, the merchandise content, and how we execute in the stores to really do it at a better rate. I understand the frustration level everybody has with the Consumables business, and I have the same frustrations, so I don't want this taken the wrong way, but we are facing the same thing as every other retailer in the United States is facing. The Consumable business for us grew almost high-single to low double-digit for five years in a row. We all faced the same thing in that last 12 months, and although we don't like it, we are coming back, we are seeing a light at the end of the tunnel, and we are not the only ones who have struggled with this percent of total business, and I can only tell you, I like the mix of our business of 30% Consumables, because a lot of the people are doing 50%, 60%, and 65% of their total mix of the business, and their business has been a lot more challenged than ours has been over time.


Laura Champine - Cowen and Company - Analyst

Got it. Thank you.


Operator

Next we will go to Peter Keith with JMP Securities.


Peter Keith - JMP Securities - Analyst

Hi, good morning everyone.


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

Good morning.


Peter Keith - JMP Securities - Analyst
 
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I was curious if you could talk about the store maturity curve what you are seeing with some of your new units as you have reengaged in store openings in recent years. Particularly as we mostly would think about the A-locations and some of the relos. Certainly as we look out to your comp store base over the next couple of years, you should be adding some relatively fresh units, and I am just curious if there is a ramp-up period that might be supportive of comp growth in years to come?


Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR

Peter it is TJ I will take that, and everyone else can jump in. But typically what we have said in the past is a store will open below market productivity, and then ramp in years two, three, four, upwards of five, at a faster rate than the balance of Company. I think what we are suggesting with these most recent store openings is that first of all, remember they are recent. 2009 and 2010, so it is tough to answer the maturity part of your question, but I think what we are seeing is and what is most encouraging is, we are not seeing that same delta in year one. I am making up numbers, if we were 85% or 90% of market productivity we are much better than that now and that is very encouraging to us.

So we are opening stronger, and again, particularly in the earliest of A-stores, we opened strong and we didn't see it really let up, so maybe what that is suggesting to us is that people are finding it as a more pleasurable experience to start off and sticking with us, so that is really all we have to go on at this point, is the stronger new-store opening, again recognizing that we re-entered the store growth mode here late in 2009 and in 2010, so the number of our data points are small right now. But certainly some of the feedback that Steve mentioned from some of our consumer surveys around new stores, and what we are seeing in the actual dollars and cents is encouraging to start with.


Peter Keith - JMP Securities - Analyst

Okay. That is helpful. Thanks a lot, and good luck in 2011.


Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR

Thanks, Pete.


Operator

Next we will here from Anthony Lebiedzinski with Sidoti & Company.


Anthony Lebiedzinski - Sidoti & Company - Analyst

Good morning, could you guys tell us the timing of new store openings and closings for 2011, please?


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Yes, Anthony, we are not going to break that out by quarter. What I would suggest to you is two things. I think we all learned a little bit from 2010, and we would like the store opening cadence to be pushed forward a little bit. A little bit more even openings throughout the first three quarters than what you saw last year, and less reliance on November openings.

Clearly we wanted to get those stores opened, and we would do the same if in that position again, but we want to make sure we try to stress the organization a little bit less as they prepare for holidays. Expect a little bit more on the store opening front in the first three quarters and less in the fourth. Store closings, two factors to consider as we talked about in Chuck's remarks, approximately half of those will be relocations, so those will be spread throughout the year, in particular the early part of the year. The balance are going to be more towards the fourth quarter, because they come up on lease expiration, and that is when a lot of our leases expire, so we won't really break down the calendarization for you, but that is some direction.


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That is helpful. When you look at the business longer term. Could you give us perhaps where you think you can increase your operating margins, to what kind of level?


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Yes. Anthony, we didn't update. We gave a three-year view at the beginning of last year. We are not going to get in to the habit of updating that every year, or rolling on a new year, but what we talked about there were two things. First off, structurally we don't see any reason why it shouldn't continue to expand for the foreseeable future, and you see that happening again here with our guidance for 2011, a higher operating profit rate on a 1 to 2 comp.

And then secondly in that three-year view that we gave a year ago, we had targeted an operating profit rate in year three of 8%. Clearly 2010 was in line with what we told you it was going to be. This guidance that we are talking about for 2011, continues that three-year view, so I don't know that there is any reason that we have to believe that it should change at this point.


Anthony Lebiedzinski - Sidoti & Company - Analyst

Okay. That is fine. Thank you.


Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - EVP, CFO

Yes.


Operator

Next we will hear from Mark Mandell With ThinkEquity.


Mark Mandell - ThinkEquity - Analyst

Thanks, good morning everyone. I wanted to drill down a little bit deeper into the Furniture business, which I find intriguing. When you have promotionally oriented companies like Raymour and Flanigan's and Bob's out there very visibly. What do you see as your key competitive advantages? And I don't know if you can shed any light on the economics of this department, and whether you are changing the space allocation for this area?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO

There is no change economically to space allocation. We love that business. We think that there are two key factors amongst a lot of things that we do in Furniture. One of them that people don't seem to understand and haven't for a long period of time, is we have furniture at the store, and you can buy it and take it with you immediately. We think that is a huge advantage.

The second is the fact that we have just unparalleled value day-in and day-out versus all competitors, and we don't play the game of a high-low when it comes to furniture. We have great Upholstery, great Casegoods, great dining, we have great RTA, and we have unbelievable value day-in and day-out in the mattress part of the business, and it is predominantly branded, and we think those two key factors have been a real advantage for us over time.


Mark Mandell - ThinkEquity - Analyst

Where do you currently stand with the exclusive arrangement with companies like Serta?


Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman, CEO
 
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That is a relationship we have had for a number of years that they make and deliver direct to each one of our stores, and have 27 or 26 sewing stations around the country, and efficiently give us what we need, which is great value in branded names. We absolutely have had discussions, and always continue to discuss with some of the other people in the business, but Serta has always performed extremely well for us, so that is a relationship that has been long-standing, and they have been a great partner with us in the business.


Mark Mandell - ThinkEquity - Analyst

Okay. Thank you.


Operator

And at this time we have no further questions.


Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP, Strategic Planning, IR

Okay. Thanks, Dave. We thank everyone for joining us on our fourth quarter conference call here, and we look to talk to you all soon. Thank you.


Operator

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