-----BEGIN PRIVACY-ENHANCED MESSAGE----- Proc-Type: 2001,MIC-CLEAR Originator-Name: webmaster@www.sec.gov Originator-Key-Asymmetric: MFgwCgYEVQgBAQICAf8DSgAwRwJAW2sNKK9AVtBzYZmr6aGjlWyK3XmZv3dTINen TWSM7vrzLADbmYQaionwg5sDW3P6oaM5D3tdezXMm7z1T+B+twIDAQAB MIC-Info: RSA-MD5,RSA, RXQ+A3m4BBDS120A3YAiheMfUvx407cVwBW+9VN5DZ3FQuoNFF1WqHyIjvFa8n51 Gol+ggqhp4S/G+EJzUVEpA== 0001140361-07-023639.txt : 20071206 0001140361-07-023639.hdr.sgml : 20071206 20071206160848 ACCESSION NUMBER: 0001140361-07-023639 CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE: 8-K PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT: 4 CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT: 20071130 ITEM INFORMATION: Results of Operations and Financial Condition ITEM INFORMATION: Other Events ITEM INFORMATION: Financial Statements and Exhibits FILED AS OF DATE: 20071206 DATE AS OF CHANGE: 20071206 FILER: COMPANY DATA: COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: BIG LOTS INC CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0000768835 STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: RETAIL-VARIETY STORES [5331] IRS NUMBER: 061119097 STATE OF INCORPORATION: OH FISCAL YEAR END: 0131 FILING VALUES: FORM TYPE: 8-K SEC ACT: 1934 Act SEC FILE NUMBER: 001-08897 FILM NUMBER: 071289671 BUSINESS ADDRESS: STREET 1: 300 PHILLIPI ROAD STREET 2: P.O.BOX 28512 CITY: COLUMBUS STATE: OH ZIP: 43228-0512 BUSINESS PHONE: 614-278-6800 MAIL ADDRESS: STREET 1: 300 PHILLIPI ROAD STREET 2: P.O.BOX 28512 CITY: COLUMBUS STATE: OH ZIP: 43228-0512 8-K 1 form8-k.htm BIG LOTS 8-K 11-30-2007 form8-k.htm


UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
 
Washington, D.C. 20549
 
FORM 8-K
 
CURRENT REPORT

PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(d) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934

 
Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): November 30, 2007

 
BIG LOTS, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)

 
Ohio
1-8897
06-1119097
(State or other jurisdiction of incorporation)
(Commission File Number)
(I.R.S. Employer Identification No.)

 
300 Phillipi Road, Columbus, Ohio 43228
(Address of principal executive office) (Zip Code)
 

 (614) 278-6800
(Registrant’s telephone number, including area code)

 
Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions:
 
£ Written communications pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act (17 CFR 230.425)
 
£ Soliciting material pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14a-12)
 
£ Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 14d-2(b) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14d-2(b))
 
£ Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 13e-4(c) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.13e-4(c))
 



 
Item 2.02               Results of Operations and Financial Condition.

On November 30, 2007, Big Lots, Inc. (“Company”) issued a press release and conducted a conference call, both of which: (i) reported the Company’s third quarter and year-to-date fiscal 2007 unaudited results; (ii) revised its previously issued guidance for the Company’s fourth quarter and fiscal 2007; (iii) provided updated information regarding its $600.0 million share repurchase program approved in March 2007 (“March 2007 Repurchase Program”); and (iv) announced that the Company’s Board of Directors had authorized the repurchase of up to $150.0 million of the Company’s common shares beginning with the completion of the March 2007 Repurchase Program.  Attached as exhibits to this Form 8-K are copies of the Company’s November 30, 2007 press release (Exhibit 99.1) and the transcript of the Company’s November 30, 2007 conference call (Exhibit 99.2), including information concerning forward-looking statements and factors that may affect the Company’s future results.  The information in Exhibits 99.1 and 99.2 is being furnished, not filed, pursuant to Item 2.02 of this Form 8-K.  By furnishing the information in this Form 8-K and the attached exhibits, the Company is making no admission as to the materiality of any information in this Form 8-K or the exhibits.

Item 8.01               Other Events.

On November 30, 2007, the Company announced that its Board of Directors had authorized the repurchase of up to $150.0 million of the Company’s common shares (“November 2007 Repurchase Program”), beginning with the completion of the March 2007 Repurchase Program and continuing until exhausted.  The Company expects the November 2007 Repurchase Program purchases to be made from time to time in the open market and/or in privately negotiated transactions at the Company's discretion, subject to market conditions and other factors.  Common shares acquired through the November 2007 Repurchase Program will be available to meet obligations under equity compensation plans and for general corporate purposes.

On December 3, 2007, the Company exhausted the $600.0 million authorized to repurchase its common shares under the March 2007 Repurchase Program.
 
 Item 9.01     Financial Statements and Exhibits.
 
 
(c)
Exhibits
   
 
Exhibits marked with an asterisk (*) are provided herewith.
       
 
Exhibit No.
 
Description
       
       
   
Big Lots, Inc. press release dated November 30, 2007.
       
   
Transcript of Big Lots, Inc. conference call dated November 30, 2007.


 
Signature

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
 
 
BIG LOTS, INC.
     
     
Dated:  December 6, 2007
By: 
/s/ Charles W. Haubiel II
   
Charles W. Haubiel II
   
Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary
 
 

EX-99.1 2 ex99_1.htm EXHIBIT 99.1 ex99_1.htm

Exhibit 99.1
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact:  Timothy A. Johnson
 
Vice President, Strategic
 
Planning and Investor Relations
 
614-278-6622

 
BIG LOTS REPORTS RECORD THIRD QUARTER EPS RESULTS

COMPANY UPDATES 2007 GUIDANCE

COMPANY ANNOUNCES NEW $150 MILLION SHARE REPURCHASE PROGRAM


Columbus, Ohio – November 30, 2007 – Big Lots, Inc. (NYSE: BIG) today reported third quarter fiscal 2007 net income totaled $14.3 million, or $0.14 per diluted share, compared to $1.7 million, or $0.02 per diluted share, in the prior year.  Discontinued operations activity reduced net income by $0.1 million, or $0.00 per diluted share, in both the current year and prior year third quarter results.  Income from continuing operations for the third quarter of fiscal 2007 was $14.4 million, or $0.14 per diluted share, compared to income from continuing operations of $1.8 million, or $0.02 per diluted share, in the third quarter of fiscal 2006.  As a reminder, third quarter and year to date results for fiscal 2006 included an after-tax charge of $6.1 million, or $0.05 per diluted share, related to certain litigation charges that were not considered to be representative of the ongoing operations of the business.

For the year to date period ended November 3, 2007, net income totaled $66.4 million, or $0.62 per diluted share, compared to $19.7 million, or $0.18 per diluted share, in the prior year.  On a year to date basis, discontinued operations increased net income by $0.9 million, or $0.01 per diluted share, compared to a net loss totaling $1.3 million, or $0.01 per diluted share, for the year to date period of fiscal 2006.  Income from continuing operations totaled $65.5 million, or $0.61 per diluted share, compared to income from continuing operations of $21.0 million, or $0.19 per diluted share, for the same period in fiscal 2006.

 
THIRD QUARTER HIGHLIGHTS
 
·
Record third quarter income from continuing operations of $0.14 per diluted share versus income from continuing operations of $0.02 per diluted share last year
·
Operating profit rate improvement of 200 basis points to 2.2% compared to 0.2% last year
·
Repurchased $153 million of stock under the Company’s $600 million share repurchase program

Commenting on the third quarter results announced today, Steve Fishman, Chairman and CEO stated, “We are very pleased to report today record earnings for the third consecutive quarter this year.  Our team remained incredibly focused on our strategy and driving operating profit growth amidst a challenging retail environment and with top line sales that were not as vibrant as originally planned.  We continue to believe that our business model, with a low leverage point and high cash flow potential, is unique in retail and positions us well for the future.”
 
 
 
Shareholder Relations Department              
300 Phillipi Road              
 Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311       
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666      
E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com      
 

 
Third Quarter Results
 
Net sales for the third quarter ended November 3, 2007, decreased 1.8% to $1,030.6 million, compared to $1,049.5 million for the same period in fiscal 2006.  Comparable store sales for stores open at least two years at the beginning of the fiscal year decreased 0.5% for the quarter on top of a 5.8% comparable store sales increase in the third quarter last year which represented the strongest quarterly performance of the year in fiscal 2006.
 
Operating profit for the third quarter of fiscal 2007 was $22.7 million, or 2.2% of sales, compared to last year’s operating profit of $2.3 million, or 0.2% of sales.  The operating profit growth was the result of significant expense leverage along with improvement in the gross margin rate.  Operating expenses as a percent of sales improved by 160 basis points due to store and distribution center efficiencies, lower insurance-related costs, lower depreciation expense and the impact of certain non-recurring litigation charges incurred in the third quarter of fiscal 2006.  Compared to last year, the Company achieved higher gross margin dollars per foot and a higher gross margin rate due to improvement on initial markup along with cost savings recognized on inbound freight.

Inventory and Cash Management

Inventory ended the quarter at $990 million, an increase of 2% per store compared to last year with holiday or giftable merchandise driving the increase.  As expected, cash flow (defined as cash generated by operating activities less cash used in investing activities) was down to last year due to timing of holiday inventory purchases and payments along with higher capital expenditures year over year.  Cash outflow for the third fiscal quarter of fiscal 2007 was $71 million compared to $51 million last year.

Share Repurchase Update

As announced in March of 2007, the Company’s Board of Directors authorized the repurchase of up to $600.0 million of its common shares commencing upon authorization and continuing until exhausted (“2007 Repurchase Program”).

As part of the 2007 Repurchase Program, during the first quarter of fiscal 2007, the Company received 2.8 million of its outstanding common shares representing the minimum number of shares purchased under a $100 million guaranteed share repurchase (“GSR”) transaction.  The GSR includes a forward contract indexed to the average price of our common stock that subjects the GSR to a future share settlement based on the average share price between the contractually specified price inception date of the GSR and the final settlement date.  The Company may receive up to 0.4 million additional shares of common stock from the counterparty in settlement of the GSR.  If the GSR had settled on November 3,  2007, the Company would have received approximately 0.4 million additional common shares from the counterparty based on the average price of its common stock since the contractually specified price inception date of the GSR. The GSR is expected to settle during the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2007.

During the third quarter of fiscal 2007, the Company purchased 6.1 million shares in open market transactions for a total investment of $153 million or a weighted average price of $25.11 per share.  Subsequent to the end of the third fiscal quarter of 2007, through November 29th, the Company has invested $106 million and purchased 5.1 million shares at a weighted average price of $20.75, leaving approximately $12 million available of the $600 million authorized by the Board of Directors under the 2007 Repurchase Program.  Program to date as of November 29, 2007, assuming the completion of the GSR, the Company has invested $588 million and purchased 22.4 million shares, or approximately 20% of its shares outstanding at the beginning of the year, at a weighted average price of $26.32.  The Company expects to complete the 2007 Repurchase Program in the first week of December.
 
 
 
Shareholder Relations Department              
300 Phillipi Road              
 Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311       
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666      
E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com      
 

 
2007 OUTLOOK
 
·
Provides updated Q4 guidance
·
Revises annual guidance for EPS from continuing operations to $1.37 to $1.42 per diluted share, an increase of 36% to 41% compared to the prior year
·
Revises annual cash flow guidance to $225 million
 
For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2007, the Company now expects comparable store sales to be slightly negative compared to prior guidance which called for a 1% to 3% comparable store sales increase.  The change in sales guidance is principally related to continued softness in the higher margin toys department and home category.  The combination of lower sales and a slightly lower gross margin rate is expected to be partially offset by a lower share count, which is directly attributable to the expected completion of the Company’s $600 million share repurchase program.  As a result, the Company’s fourth quarter earnings guidance is estimated to be in the range of $0.81 to $0.86 per diluted share.  This level of earnings compares to income from continuing operations for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2006 of $0.83 per diluted share.  As a reminder, the fourth quarter of fiscal 2006 included incremental earnings of approximately $0.05 per diluted share related to the extra week included in the retail calendar during fiscal 2006 (fourth quarter of 14 weeks versus a normal 13 week quarter, full year of 53 weeks versus a normal 52 week year).
 
Given the strength of the third quarter operating results and the revised fourth quarter earnings expectations, the Company has adjusted its fiscal 2007 guidance for earnings and cash flow.  The Company anticipates fiscal 2007 income from continuing operations of $1.37 to $1.42 per diluted share, an increase of 36% to 41% compared to income from continuing operations of $1.01 per diluted share for fiscal 2006.  Given this projected level of EPS performance and a continued focus on working capital management, the Company estimates approximately $225 million of cash flow for fiscal 2007.
 
BOARD OF DIRECTORS AUTHORIZES NEW $150 MILLION SHARE REPURCHASE PROGRAM
 
The Company also announced today its Board of Directors authorized a new repurchase program providing for the repurchase of up to $150 million of the Company’s common shares commencing after the completion of the $600 million program and continuing until exhausted.  Based on the current share price, the program would allow the Company to acquire approximately 8% of its outstanding shares as of November 29, 2007.  The Company said it expects the purchases to be made from time to time in the open market and/or in privately negotiated transactions at the Company's discretion, subject to market conditions and other factors.  Common shares acquired through the repurchase program will be available to meet obligations under equity compensation plans and for general corporate purposes.  The Board believes that the size of the new repurchase program fits well within the Company’s capital structure and its cash flow potential.
 
 
 
Shareholder Relations Department              
300 Phillipi Road              
 Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311       
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666      
E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com      
 

 
Conference Call/Webcast
 
The Company will host a conference call today at 8:00 a.m. Eastern Time to discuss the Company's financial results for the third quarter of fiscal 2007 and financial guidance for the balance of fiscal 2007.  The Company invites you to listen to the webcast of the conference call through the Investors section of our website (www.biglots.com).
 
If you are unable to join the live webcast, an archive of the call will be available at http://www.biglots.com in the Investor Relations section of our website two hours after the call ends and will remain available through midnight on Friday, December 14. A replay of the call will be available beginning November 30 at 12:00 noon (Eastern Time) through December 14 at midnight by dialing: 1.800.207.7077 (United States and Canada) or 1.913.383.5767 (International or metro-Seattle). The PIN number is 5878.
 
Big Lots is the nation’s largest broadline closeout retailer.  As of the end of the third quarter of fiscal 2007 (November 3, 2007), the Company operated 1,368 BIG LOTS stores in 47 states. Wholesale operations are conducted through BIG LOTSWHOLESALE, CONSOLIDATED INTERNATIONAL, WISCONSIN TOY and with online sales at www.biglotswholesale.com. The Company’s website is located at www.biglots.com.
 
Cautionary Statement Concerning Forward-Looking Statements

Certain statements in this release are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, and such statements are intended to qualify for the protection of the safe harbor provided by the Act. The words “anticipate,” “estimate,” “expect,” “objective,” “goal,” “project,” “intend,” “plan,” “believe,” “will,” “target,” “forecast” and similar expressions generally identify forward-looking statements. Similarly, descriptions of our objectives, strategies, plans, goals or targets are also forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements relate to the expectations of management as to future occurrences and trends, including statements expressing optimism or pessimism about future operating results or events and projected sales, earnings, capital expenditures and business strategy. Forward-looking statements are based upon a number of assumptions concerning future conditions that may ultimately prove to be inaccurate. Forward-looking statements are and will be based upon management’s then-current views and assumptions regarding future events and operating performance, and are applicable only as of the dates of such statements. Although we believe the expectations expressed in forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions within the bounds of our knowledge, forward-looking statements, by their nature, involve risks, uncertainties and other factors, any one or a combination of which could materially affect our business, financial condition, results of operations or liquidity.

Forward-looking statements that we make herein and in other reports and releases are not guarantees of future performance and actual results may differ materially from those discussed in such forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including, but not limited to, the cost of goods, our inability to successfully execute strategic initiatives, competitive pressures, economic pressures on our customers and us, the availability of brand name closeout merchandise, trade restrictions, freight costs, the risks discussed in the Risk Factors section of our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K, and other factors discussed from time to time in our other filings with the SEC, including Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q and Current Reports on Form 8-K. This release should be read in conjunction with such filings, and you should consider all of these risks, uncertainties and other factors carefully in evaluating forward-looking statements.
 
 
 
Shareholder Relations Department              
300 Phillipi Road              
 Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311       
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666      
E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com      
 

 
You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date thereof. We undertake no obligation to publicly update forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. You are advised, however, to consult any further disclosures we make on related subjects in our public announcements and SEC filings.
 
 
 
Shareholder Relations Department              
300 Phillipi Road              
 Columbus, Ohio 43228-5311       
Phone: (614) 278-6622      Fax: (614) 278-6666      
E-mail: aschmidt@biglots.com      
 

 

BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES    
 
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS  
 
(In thousands)    
 
             
   
NOVEMBER 3,
   
OCTOBER 28,
 
   
2007
   
2006
 
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
             
ASSETS
           
             
Current assets:
           
Cash and cash equivalents
  $
41,776
    $
7,526
 
Inventories
   
989,742
     
994,740
 
Deferred income taxes
   
65,006
     
76,520
 
Other current assets
   
65,989
     
78,471
 
Total current assets
   
1,162,513
     
1,157,257
 
                 
Property and equipment - net
   
491,780
     
534,187
 
                 
Deferred income taxes
   
50,443
     
36,974
 
Other assets
   
22,308
     
27,726
 
                 
    $
1,727,044
    $
1,756,144
 
                 
                 
LIABILITIES AND SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY
               
                 
Current liabilities:
               
Accounts payable
  $
386,981
    $
303,571
 
Property, payroll and other taxes
   
69,186
     
106,444
 
Accrued operating expenses
   
117,879
     
60,289
 
Insurance reserves
   
38,257
     
46,401
 
KB bankruptcy lease obligation
   
8,768
     
27,184
 
Accrued salaries and wages
   
34,884
     
32,077
 
Other current liabilities
   
13,914
     
8,273
 
Total current liabilities
   
669,869
     
584,239
 
                 
Long-term obligations
   
138,900
     
36,100
 
                 
Deferred rent
   
32,604
     
39,477
 
Insurance reserves
   
43,961
     
44,942
 
Unrecognized tax benefits
   
31,052
     
0
 
Other liabilities
   
35,386
     
30,374
 
                 
Shareholders' equity
   
775,272
     
1,021,012
 
    $
1,727,044
    $
1,756,144
 
 


BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES     
 
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS  
 
(In thousands, except per share data)     
 
                         
   
13 WEEKS ENDED
   
13 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
November 3, 2007
   
October 28, 2006
 
         
%
   
Note 1
   
%
 
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
                         
                         
Net sales
  $
1,030,638
     
100.0
    $
1,049,537
     
100.0
 
Gross margin
   
411,806
     
40.0
     
415,345
     
39.6
 
Selling and administrative expenses
   
367,806
     
35.7
     
388,041
     
37.0
 
Depreciation expense
   
21,268
     
2.1
     
24,988
     
2.4
 
Operating profit
   
22,732
     
2.2
     
2,316
     
0.2
 
Interest expense
    (235 )     (0.0 )     (185 )     (0.0 )
Interest and investment income
   
578
     
0.1
     
61
     
0.0
 
Income from continuing operations before income taxes
   
23,075
     
2.2
     
2,192
     
0.2
 
Income tax expense
   
8,702
     
0.8
     
373
     
0.0
 
Income from continuing operations
   
14,373
     
1.4
     
1,819
     
0.2
 
Loss from discontinued operations, net of tax benefit of $48 and $1,097, respectively
    (75 )     (0.0 )     (85 )     (0.0 )
Net income
  $
14,298
     
1.4
    $
1,734
     
0.2
 
                                 
Income (loss) per common share - basic
                               
Continuing operations
  $
0.14
            $
0.02
         
Discontinued operations
   
0.00
             
0.00
         
Net income
  $
0.14
            $
0.02
         
                                 
Income (loss) per common share - diluted
                               
Continuing operations
  $
0.14
            $
0.02
         
Discontinued operations
   
0.00
             
0.00
         
Net income
  $
0.14
            $
0.02
         
                                 
Weighted average common shares outstanding
                               
Basic
   
101,188
             
108,239
         
Dilutive effect of share-based awards
   
1,055
             
1,656
         
Diluted
   
102,243
             
109,895
         
                                 
Note 1: Thirteen weeks ended October 28, 2006 selling and administrative expenses includes a pretax charge of $9.7 million ($6.1 million after tax, or $0.05 per diluted share) for the estimated settlement liability of two employment-related litigation matters.
 
 

 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES     
 
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS  
 
(In thousands, except per share data)     
 
        
   
39 WEEKS ENDED
   
39 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
November 3, 2007
   
October 28, 2006
 
         
%
   
Note 1
   
%
 
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
                         
                         
Net sales
  $
3,243,928
     
100.0
    $
3,197,694
     
100.0
 
Gross margin
   
1,279,793
     
39.5
     
1,265,960
     
39.6
 
Selling and administrative expenses
   
1,116,315
     
34.4
     
1,160,546
     
36.3
 
Depreciation expense
   
64,860
     
2.0
     
74,568
     
2.3
 
Operating profit
   
98,618
     
3.0
     
30,846
     
1.0
 
Interest expense
    (432 )    
0.0
      (390 )    
0.0
 
Interest and investment income
   
5,180
     
0.2
     
1,209
     
0.0
 
Income from continuing operations before income taxes
   
103,366
     
3.2
     
31,665
     
1.0
 
Income tax expense
   
37,834
     
1.2
     
10,638
     
0.3
 
Income from continuing operations
   
65,532
     
2.0
     
21,027
     
0.7
 
Income (loss) from discontinued operations, net of tax expense (benefit) of $581 and ($1,773), respectively
   
914
     
0.0
      (1,281 )    
0.0
 
Net income
  $
66,446
     
2.0
    $
19,746
     
0.6
 
                                 
Income (loss) per common share - basic
                               
Continuing operations
  $
0.62
            $
0.19
         
Discontinued operations
   
0.01
              (0.01 )        
Net income
  $
0.63
            $
0.18
         
                                 
Income (loss) per common share - diluted
                               
Continuing operations
  $
0.61
            $
0.19
         
Discontinued operations
   
0.01
              (0.01 )        
Net income
  $
0.62
            $
0.18
         
                                 
Weighted average common shares outstanding
                               
Basic
   
105,866
             
110,750
         
Dilutive effect of share-based awards
   
1,329
             
1,214
         
Diluted
   
107,195
             
111,964
         
                                 
Note 1: Thirty-nine weeks ended October 28, 2006 selling and administrative expenses includes a pretax charge of $9.7 million ($6.1 million after tax, or $0.05 per diluted share) for the estimated settlement liability of two employment-related litigation matters.
 
 

 
BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES     
 
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS 
 
(In thousands)     
 
       
       
   
13 WEEKS ENDED
   
13 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
November 3, 2007
   
October 28, 2006
 
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
Net cash used in operating activities
  $ (52,640 )   $ (40,310 )
                 
Net cash used in investing activities
    (18,707 )     (10,794 )
                 
Net cash provided by financing activities
   
4,484
     
57,873
 
(Decrease) increase in cash and cash equivalents
    (66,863 )    
6,769
 
Cash and cash equivalents:
               
Beginning of period
   
108,639
     
757
 
End of period
  $
41,776
    $
7,526
 



BIG LOTS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES     
 
CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS  
 
(In thousands)     
 
       
   
39 WEEKS ENDED
   
39 WEEKS ENDED
 
   
November 3, 2007
   
October 28, 2006
 
   
(Unaudited)
   
(Unaudited)
 
Net cash provided by operating activities
  $
45,040
    $
72,765
 
                 
Net cash used in investing activities
    (38,118 )     (25,325 )
                 
Net cash used in financing activities
    (246,803 )     (41,624 )
(Decrease) increase in cash and cash equivalents
    (239,881 )    
5,816
 
Cash and cash equivalents:
               
Beginning of period
   
281,657
     
1,710
 
End of period
  $
41,776
    $
7,526
 
 
 

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 Nov. 30. 2007 / 8:00AM ET, BIG - Q3 2007 Big Lots, Inc. Earnings Conference Call
 
 
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
 
 Tim Johnson
 Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 Steve Fishman
 Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 Joe Cooper
 Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
 
 John Zolidis
 Buckingham Research - Analyst
 
 David Mann
 Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 Peter Keith
 Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 
 Charles Grom
 JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 Jeff Stein
 KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
 
 
 PRESENTATION
 


Operator
 
 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Big Lots third-quarter 2007 teleconference.

During this session, all lines will be muted until the question-and-answer portion of the call. (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS)

At this time, I would like to introduce today's first speaker, Vice President of Strategic Planning and Investor Relations, Tim Johnson.


 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 Thanks, Brandy. Thank you, everyone, for joining us for our third-quarter conference call. With me here in Columbus today are Steve Fishman, our Chairman and CEO, Joe Cooper, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Chuck Haubiel, Senior Vice President and General Counsel. We appreciate you joining us this morning a little earlier than normal.

Before we get started, I'd like to remind you that any forward-looking statements we make on today's call involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to our Safe Harbor provisions as stated in our press release and our SEC filings, and that actual results can differ materially from those described in our forward-looking statements.

As you can see from our earnings release this morning, our results include both continuing and discontinued operations. The discontinued operations activity in the third quarter of fiscal 2007 and 2006 reflects the 130 stores closed in January of 2006 and KB Toys related matters as described in our Form 10-K. Given the amount is immaterial and we do not view the discontinued operations as relevant to the ongoing operations of the business, the balance of our prepared comments will be made on results related to continuing operations.

With that, I would like to turn it over to Steve.
 

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 Good morning, everybody. During the third quarter, we continued to execute the Big Lots WIN strategy, a strategy focused on operating profit growth. Our operating profit dollars and our EPS for the third quarter were records for this business in a very challenging retail environment. While the top line performance was soft, we stayed focused on what was within our control and drove profitable sales. We didn't overreact with crazy promotions or give away the store for the sake of a comp. In fact, our gross margin dollars per foot and gross margin rate were actually up for the quarter due to better markup and lower inbound freight costs, each of which are initiatives that we have been focused on throughout the year. From a top line perspective, our third-quarter comps were down 0.5% against our best quarterly comp last year, when comps were up 5.8%.

During Q3, some of the areas of the store continued to perform, categories such as Consumables, Furniture, and parts of Hardlines. But business was tougher in other areas like Toys, Home, and fall Seasonal.

If you are in this business long enough, you'll come across difficult times and sometimes things you cannot necessarily control. Do we like that our comps are soft and not as strong as the first half of this year? No. Do I think we have great values in our store? Yes, in most categories. But I'm a firm believer that you take a look at your own execution first. In a couple of categories, we still have some work to do and some changes will need to be made. But I also believe that the environment is such right now that it's tough for anyone to drive meaningful top line growth, whether you are high-end retail, department stores, specialty stores, discount stores, it's just too pervasive right now to say that the macro environment is not impacting retail.

On a regional basis, our performance was strongest in the Central region with the Western and Southeastern regions, or really California and Florida, lagging the Company average.

From a demographic standpoint, I know that there are still those of you who believe that we only have a low income customer, but it's just not true. We have higher-income stores and lower-income stores, and we continue to see very little disparity in comps between those stores.

Shifting from comps to inventory management, we ended the third quarter with $990 million, or an increase of 2% per store compared to a year ago. The increase was concentrated in holiday, or giftable categories, to support the "9 Weeks of Christmas". Although inventories were a little higher than we would have liked at the end of the third quarter, we remain relentless at making sure our inventories will be clean and current after the holiday and that our stores and distribution centers remain fluid.

Moving away from the third quarter, I want to update you on a couple of strategic initiatives. First, we finished our store retrofit program in Q3. It totaled 70 stores principally in California. The purpose of the retrofit was to get more merchandise out on the selling floor and better allocate square footage to key categories. In approximately half of these stores, we created enough space to move to a full-size furniture department. We learned a lot about how to best execute the retrofit, and any future activity will hinge on our ability to ensure there is enough space to expand furniture. We will continue to evaluate sales and profitability of this initiative through the holidays before making a decision on next year.

Next, the rollout of our new point-of-sale register system has gone very well this year. At the end of Q3, we were up and running in about 700 stores. We're taking a break during the holiday season and will start back up in January with the balance of the chain to be completed by mid-2008.

Also from a strategic standpoint, we are starting to see a small amount of movement or flexibility in the commercial real estate market. We've opened a total of 7 new stores this year, and we will be closing fewer stores than originally planned at the end of the year, somewhere in the neighborhood 30 total closings for the year, compared to what we thought could be as high as 45 or 50 at one point. We were able to negotiate favorable lease terms in a number of stores that we had originally thought we would ultimately close. Additionally, as we look at new stores, we have more new stores in the pipeline for next year, 2008, than we had at this time last year for 2007. Again, this is a very small change and we would not want you to walk away thinking that all of a sudden we will be growing our store base. But in our view, it is a positive for the business. All along, we have wanted more stores, but contrary to some of the fiction that has been written about us, our business and the four-wall models of our stores cannot support the rent that is being demanded in certain markets or locations. If we cannot invest in a new store and generate an acceptable return, we absolutely will not sign the deal. For the last two years, we've said that, in order to open more stores, that our productivity has to improve, which it has, and we expect it will continue. Also, the real estate markets and rents need to be more appealing. We may be starting to see the second piece of the equation start to change, ever so slightly.
 

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Since the day I walked in here, we said we were going to manage this business for the long-term, and that's what we've done and will continue to do, even if the landscape is difficult in 2008. Over the last two years, we've examined almost every aspect of our business, from merchandising and merchandise processes to marketing, to real estate, to the cost structure of the business. The outcome is we have a business that is not dependent on new stores to drive net income growth. We have a model that has a very low SG&A leverage point. Look at this year alone -- 150 basis points or so of leverage on a 2% comp. That leverage point has to be below 0. Now, a 0% comp to leverage SG&A is not sustainable; we all know that. But you have to believe that, from where we are today, that it stays relatively low, looking into the future. We have a model that generates significant amounts of cash, $225 million worth of cash flow this year from a company with a market cap in the neighborhood of $2 billion. We have a model that makes meaningful amounts of money now in all four quarters -- $29 million in the first quarter, $22 million in the second quarter, $14 million in Q3, and somewhere between $75 million and $80 million in Q4, based on our guidance. Gone are the days when we made all of or more than 100% of our annual net income in the fourth quarter. Last year, Q4 was approximately 80% of the year's net income. This year, almost half of our net income for the year is estimated to be earned in the first three quarters with a little over half coming in Q4. We have a business that will have returned almost $750 million to shareholders through repurchase activities over the last two years and have another $150 million authorized and ready to invest if the opportunity presents itself. If times are going to be challenging for the balance of this year and into next year, we like our model and how it positions us for the future.
 
Joe?


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone.

For the third quarter of fiscal 2007, we reported income from continuing operations of $14.4 million or $0.14 per diluted share, compared to income from continuing operations of $1.8 million or $0.02 per diluted share a year ago.

As a reminder, last year's result included a $6.1 million after-tax litigation charge that reduced earnings by $0.05 per diluted share. Absent those charges, our third-quarter income from continuing operations last year was $7.9 million, or $0.07 per diluted share.

This year's Q3 result of $0.14 per share was slightly above the high end of our guidance, which called for earnings of $0.09 to $0.13 per share. If you were looking at the high end of our guidance, the favorability resulted from, first, a gross margin rate that was 40 basis points higher than last year contributed $0.02 of favorability. Second, we were able to generate SG&A leverage on a -0.5% comp. This operating leverage was partially offset by softer-than-expected sales, particularly in the Toys, Home, and fall Seasonal categories.

Sales for the third quarter were $1.031 billion, a decrease of 1.8% over the prior year.

Operating profit for the third quarter was $22.7 million or 2.2% of sales, compared to operating profit last year of $2.3 million or 0.2% of sales. Keep in mind, the litigation charges from last year rolled through SG&A and operating profit. Absent those charges, which totaled $9.7 million on a pre-tax basis, operating profit would have been $12.0 million or 1.1% of sales. So, the operating profit of the business nearly doubled on a slightly negative comp, due to both gross margin improvement and significant SG&A leverage.

Gross margin dollars increased 2% per store. The third-quarter rate of 40.0% was 40 basis points higher than last year's rate of 39.6%, due to improvements in IMU rate and lower freight costs, partially offset by slightly higher markdowns, as a percent of sales, due to the -0.5% comp.

Excluding the $9.7 million of litigation charges from a year ago, SG&A dollars per store were down approximately 1% with the SG&A rate of 37.8% approximately 60 basis points lower than last year.

Leverage for the quarter was achieved primarily through store and distribution center efficiencies, lower insurance claims as a result of strategic initiatives implemented this year, and lower depreciation expense. These areas of leverage were partially offset by certain expenses that are more fixed, or subject to inflationary costs, and as such do not leverage on a slightly negative comp.

Net interest income was $0.3 million for the quarter, a $0.5 million improvement compared to last year, due to the Company's improved operating performance and inventory management, partially offset by the use of cash to opportunistically repurchase stock during the year.

Our tax rate for the third quarter of fiscal 2007 was 37.7%, which was within our annual range of 37% to 38%.

Turning to the balance sheet, our total inventory ended the quarter at $990 million compared to $995 million last year, or a plus 2% on a per-store basis.
 
 
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Cash flow, which we define as cash provided by operating activities less cash used in investing activities, was $71 million of cash outflows for the third quarter, compared to $51 million of cash outflows last year. The variance to the prior year is primarily due to timing differences of inventory flow. As you may recall, we started the quarter significantly lower than last year, and throughout the third quarter, we built inventory to more normal levels, particularly in Consumables. Additionally, our CapEx was higher than last year due to our POS rollout. Partially offsetting the inventory build and higher CapEx was higher net income year-over-year. We ended the third quarter with debt of $139 million, compared to debt of $36 million last year. The increase of $103 million relates primarily to share repurchase activity and capital investments in the business, partially offset by higher net income, faster inventory turns, and higher AP leverage due to improving vendor terms.

Capital expenditures totaled $19.6 million for the third quarter, up $8.6 million to the third quarter of last year. Depreciation expense for the quarter was $21.3 million or $3.7 million lower than last year.

During the third quarter, we opened 4 new stores and closed 5 stores, leaving us with 1368 stores and total selling square footage of 29.2 million.

In regards to our 2007 share repurchase program, during the third quarter of fiscal 2007, the Company purchased 6.1 million shares in open-market transactions for a total investment of $153 million at a weighted average price of $25.11 per share. Since then, through November 29, the Company has invested $106 million and purchased 5.1 million shares at a weighted average price of $20.75, leaving approximately $12 million available of the $600 million authorized by the Board of Directors under the 2007 repurchase program.

Program-to-date, as of November 29, 2007, assuming the completion of the GSR, the Company has invested $588 million and purchased 22.4 million shares, or approximately 20% of its shares outstanding at the beginning of the year, at a weighted average price of $26.32. The Company expects to complete the 2007 repurchase program in the first week of December.

Moving onto guidance for the fourth quarter, we now expect that comp-store sales will be slightly negative compared to our prior guidance of 1% to 3% increase. The change is principally related to continued softness in our Toys and Home merchandise categories, and also a slow start to our Trim-a-Tree business. Each of these are higher-margin categories for us, so there will be a mix impact on the quarter. Additionally, we will take the markdowns necessary to ensure we turn inventory and begin 2008 with clean, fresh goods. Accordingly, we expect our Q4 gross margin rate to be slightly down to last year versus our previous guidance of flat to up slightly. Despite our lower sales and gross margin guidance for the quarter, we continue to expect SG&A leverage on a slightly negative comp. This is a really important part I want to make completely clear so that you are able to model appropriately, and quite frankly, so you can communicate information accurately. With this revised guidance, we are forecasting an increase in the operating profit rate compared to last year, when you adjust last year for the extra week. In fact, on a slightly negative comp, we are forecasting that the operating profit dollars will increase by as much as 5% per store compared to last year. So, the operations are forecasted to be more profitable than last year, even though comps are forecasted to be slightly negative.

From an EPS perspective, the softer sales and gross margin is partially offset by the impact of a lower share count from share repurchase activity. Our forecasted income from continuing operations is now estimated to be in the range of $0.81 to $0.86 per diluted share, compared to $0.83 per diluted share last year. As a reminder, the $0.83 earned in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2006 included two unusual items that added about $0.10 to last year's Q4 result -- first, the incremental earnings of $0.05 related to the extra week in the retail calendar; and second, a $0.05 benefit due to a lower tax rate of approximately 34%, versus our call-out of 38% to 38.5% in Q4 this year.

Given Q3 results and our revised expectations for Q4, our comparable store sales for the full year are now estimated to be approximately 2% and with a gross margin rate that is slightly down to last year. SG&A leverage of 150 to 170 basis points for the year remains our guidance. Our guidance for full year calls for income from continuing operations of $1.37 to $1.42 per diluted share, representing a 36% to 41% increase over last year's EPS from continuing operations of $1.01 per diluted share. At this level of earnings and assuming an annual inventory turnover rate of 3.5 times, we expect to generate $225 million of cash flow for the year.

Given the anticipated completion of our $600 million repurchase program next week, we would estimate the number of weighted average diluted shares to be approximately 104 million for the year, below our prior guidance of 106 million. As a result of that higher-than-anticipated share repurchase activity during Q3 and Q4, we have lowered our net interest income forecast to $3 million for the year.

Based on fewer store closings and the timing of how our capital has been spent this year, we now estimate depreciation expense of $85 million to $90 million for the year.

Now, that's what is in our guidance. What's not in our guidance is any impact related to the new, $150 million repurchase program announced today. Given the valuations and volatility in retail stocks, we anticipate being opportunistic with these funds to provide value back to our shareholders.
 
 
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 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 With that, Brandy, we would like to open up the lines for questions.
 
 
 QUESTION AND ANSWER
 
 

Operator
 
 (OPERATOR INSTRUCTIONS). John Zolidis, Buckingham Research.
 

 John Zolidis - Buckingham Research - Analyst
 
 Good morning. Two questions -- one, could you comment on whether you still believe the long-term goals that you laid out at the onset of the year that called for operating margins of 5.5% are still achievable?

Then second, now the comps are expected to be negative for two consecutive quarters, have you started to think about changing the current strategy, in particular the "raise the ring" strategy? And is there any Plan B under discussion?


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 This is Joe, John. Related to the first question, the operating profit goal, the three-year operating profit goal of 5.5%, absolutely we still believe that's achievable.

Regarding the second question, do you want to --?
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 The second question -- basically, John, what you are asking, if I understand, is do we believe that "raise the ring" is still a strategy? We absolutely believe that "raise the ring" is still a good strategy and a strong strategy, and we haven't varied from it and see no reason to do so. In fact, our customer continues to tell us that what they want is great value. We haven't seen pressures as far as being too high on selling product. In fact, we are probably doing things today that continue to reinforce it. Last week, we broke a coffeemaker in a new line that we've never run before, under the Cuisinart name, if you are a little bit of a student. We ran a $50 coffeemaker on the front cover; in fact, I think it ran Sunday. We've never run a $50 coffeemaker and it was an absolute blowout.

We do a pretty good job of going back and talking to our customers on a consistent basis and asking them what they want from us, and never once has price been a factor in any way, shape or form. So we believe that the strategy is right. What we need to do is continue to deliver great values to the customer, just like every other retailer out there today. I think the headwinds that are in all of our faces we can blame on a lot of different issues, but the fact of life is, at the end of the day, the customer votes at the registers. If you offer them great values, they will continue to buy from you. They will be a lot more selective and I think they are clearly being selective and every retailer out there will tell you that, today. But the strategy is right; the offerings are right; the "raise the ring" program is right for us. And we're confident that it's the right way to go.
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 John, I just wanted to add something on the operating profit and just make sure it's clear that the 5.5% is a three-your plan, and with our guidance that we are communicating today, we are still a fair amount ahead of the original 2007 operating profit goal. So, we see no reason why we would hesitate at all in our confidence about that three-year goal.


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 David Mann - Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 Yes, thank you. Can you talk a little bit more about what you're seeing in terms of real estate, in terms of the possibility of number of stores to open next year? Should we start expecting a flattish number versus down number of stores?
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 Well, in our comments, David, what we said is we do not believe, at this point, that we are at where we would open the same amount as we are closing, but we are seeing cracks and we're very encouraged by those cracks where we have quite a few more stores in the queue than we did last year and at the same time, we are closing fewer stores than we originally thought because of our ability to renegotiate some of those leases. So the net is improving, but at this point, of course we're not giving specific '08 guidance but we're not ready to communicate that we will be opening the same amount we're closing.


 David Mann - Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 But sort of following up on John's question, it sounds like, in the three-year plan, that one of the components of that, the store numbers, you had talked about that going down at a faster rate than you're now believing.


 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 We did say that, David, in the plan originally. We said that when we communicated in February. All we're saying -- and we've said all along -- that we hope that, at some particular point, that there would be a crack in the commercial real estate market and at some point, maybe it would come back favorably and we wanted to be able to take advantage of that situation. And we absolutely will. But I mean, I think that the environment is full of waves right now and the boat is rocking for everybody.

All we're kind of saying is that we are communicating to everybody that we are seeing a crack. We'll absolutely communicate to you in February what the total number of stores are. We have more in the queue this year than we did a year ago at this particular point. We renegotiated leases that allowed us to keep stores open that we didn't anticipate. We're not there yet but we're certainly working our way towards there. Frankly, I'm very encouraged, for the first time in 2.5 years, that we've got the opportunity to eventually get to that point, and I'd love to make it sooner than later.


 David Mann - Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 Okay. Then in terms of the typical progression in sales from November through January and sort of what you're thinking about in your guidance, can you just comment on that a little bit? I mean, are you expecting, or historically have sales picked up as you get closer to Christmas? Are you sort of feeling that in your comp or you're not expecting that?


 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 Yes, absolutely. Really, we took a look at it and of course we wouldn't share with you the individuals, but when we personally took a look at it in the guidance, clearly business picks up closer to Christmas. Every retailer will tell you every single solitary year, it becomes later and later and later.

We took a look at it from a slightly different perspective. We took a look at our businesses that are the most challenged right now. I tried to be as upfront as I could possibly be, and we talked about Toys and we talked about Home, and we talked about Trim-a-Tree. Trim-a-Tree is not as vibrant as I would like it. I know for a fact, every retailer out there would tell you the same thing, but there's still a way to go to get to Christmas. I'm not so optimistic that I would tell you I think its going to change overnight, but Thanksgiving weekend was earlier this year than it was last year. Where last weekend would have been the biggest weekend, we anticipate this weekend will be a bigger weekend, and clearly is still a weekend that's still in November and more days out from December 25.
 

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The Toy business -- and I will be prudently honest -- is about 5% of our business on a yearly basis. But in November, it's probably more like about 9% of our business; and in December, it's closer to 13% or 14% of our business. So you know, we are -- on the other hand, when you move into January, it falls off the charts and it falls into the 1% or 2% of our business. So you know, we clearly have anticipated, with our guidance, that things will pick up because we still have a lot of businesses that are still very, very healthy. It's just that a couple of them are really dragging us down.


 David Mann - Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 Just one last follow-up on that point -- if you took Toys out of your comp calculation for Q4 guidance, would you be closer to or on plan? I mean, is that most of the comp weakness versus the low-end of your previous guidance?


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 Well, I would just say our previous guidance -- Toys has not been strong all year.


 David Mann - Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 But it's more important in December?


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Absolutely. But to summarize it, we knew a percent of total when we gave original guidance. We knew two things -- one, Toys has struggled throughout the year, and also its percent of total gets stronger, gets obviously much higher, as Steve said, during the "9 Weeks of Christmas", particularly these five weeks. But we did not anticipate that it would struggle to this extent. Certainly, some of the news that we've heard, particularly in the preschool toys, the kind of hit we've experienced there was not anticipated. Those results have been worse than we thought.
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 But David, we did say that other businesses are fine, thank you very much, and just plugging along like they were plugging along before. Consumables business seems still as healthy as it ever was before. The Furniture business, although the mix of it is still slightly changed, is still as healthy as it ever was before. Parts of Hardlines are still as healthy as it ever was before. So we tried to give the best guidance we possibly could with the fact that Toys is such a large percent of the business in November and December.


 David Mann - Johnson Rice & Co. - Analyst
 
 Very good. Thank you.


Operator
 
 Mitch Kaiser, Piper Jaffray.
 

 Peter Keith - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 
 This is actually Pete calling in for Mitch. I just want to ask a little bit about some of the gross margin initiatives, or at least some of the impacts. Are you starting to see some of the benefits from your global sourcing efforts? Then just secondarily on that, are fuel costs beginning to cause a bit of a drag here on gross margin for Q4?
 

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 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 The answer is yes, and just like everybody else to the second piece.

You know, we talk about the global sourcing piece, and it was a real important initiative for us. We opened an office and established a relationship almost a year ago. At this particular point, the office opened in Shanghai in January, and we had hoped that we would start to see the initiatives pay-off in gross margin. I would say to you the absolutely the third quarter was impacted and as we see going forward, we hope that those initiatives will be important.

The other piece is we're working very hard to understand because we do believe this is a gross margin dollar business and I don't want anybody to think that we're not looking at it differently. But we're really trying to understand how we can impact the gross margin dollars in the higher classifications of margin opportunities to grow those businesses at a much faster rate than some of the lower gross margin businesses. Frankly, on a top line basis, that may have cost us a little bit in the third quarter, understanding the business that way, but on a bottom line basis, it returned to us a real satisfactory return.

The issue of freight charges and gasoline -- the freight, inbound and outbound freight has been an unbelievably important initiative that we've talked about for probably two years, actually, and talked about it being a very important initiative in the long-range plan in February. So although fuel is challenging, we're doing just a spectacular job on the inbound freight of the part of our business. Our distribution and logistics people have done a great job at figuring out how to offset that piece.


 Peter Keith - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 
 Okay, thank you for that. Just a balance sheet question -- it looks like you're now carrying a little bit of debt here in Q3, and last year you did the same and then paid it off. Are you, in the current environment, interested in maintaining some debts to continue the share repurchases, or should we anticipate that will be gone?


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Well, assuming no repurchase activity from the new program, we would have some debt at the end of the year under our current model, considering the significant amount of repurchase activity that we've already had this year. But the way we thought about the new program with the debt that we may have at the end of the year, plus if we complete the new repurchase program over the next, say, 15 months, we would be using next year's cash flow on that repurchase activity. So, we would not anticipate having debt at the end of the '08 year if we execute that complete program over the next 15 months.
 

 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 Pete, just a point of clarification there -- Joe mentioned we do expect to have some level of debt at the end of the year. We've authorized a $150 million program. It's really trying to use next year's cash flow, but wouldn't want you to walk away thinking we just gave '08 cash flow guidance of $150 million; that's not what we're saying.
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Correct.
 

 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 All we are saying is the $150 million that we've authorized or that has been authorized by the Board and is now in place after this program's complete fits well within our cash flow expectations for next year. It's not meant to be guidance on cash flow next year.
 

 Peter Keith - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 

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 Okay, that's helpful. Just one quick maintenance question -- I know you guys guided the weighted average share count for the year. Do you have the ending Q3 share count balance?
 

 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 Yes, we do, just one second.


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Let me expand on that, your question, while T.J. is looking at that. We are comfortable with that, so to answer your question, we've always been comfortable with that, having a certain level of debt; it can optimize your capital structure. But it's use of that cash, so it's important, whenever you layer debt on, that you have a good use of cash. Because of our very strong cash flow, we haven't needed debt.
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Let me ask you something. Do you want actual shares, or do you want diluted shares for --?
 

Unidentified Company Representative
 
 Fourth quarter.
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Yes, which are you asking?
 

 Peter Keith - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 
 Just the quarter-ending diluted share count balance. Because I know you've been buying back shares here in Q4 -- it just helps us to model out what that weighted average might be for the entire Q4.


 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 I guess I would tell you, I could tell you actual outstanding shares at the end of the quarter was 95.8 million. In the model that we've just described to you, our assumption around shares for the fourth quarter, assuming we complete the $600 million program, which we said we have, and assuming no activity on the $150 million program, our share account assumption for the fourth quarter is, call it 92 million, 92.5 million shares. That's diluted.
 

 Peter Keith - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 
 That's ending, or is that the weighted average for Q4?
 

 Tim Johnson - Big Lots, Inc. - VP of Strategy Planning and IR
 
 Weighted average (multiple speakers)


 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 For the EPS count (multiple speakers).
 

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 Nov. 30. 2007 / 8:00AM ET, BIG - Q3 2007 Big Lots, Inc. Earnings Conference Call
 
 

 Peter Keith - Piper Jaffray - Analyst
 
 Okay, that's what I need, then. Thanks you very much, guys.
 

Operator
 
 Charles Grom, JPMorgan.
 

 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 Good morning, thanks. With regards to your fourth-quarter outlook for gross profit margin softness, how much of that is a function of mix and the weakness in Toys and Home category, as opposed to markdown or expected markdown pressure?
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Well, it's all basically markdowns.
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 Right. It's all basically markdowns, Charles. I mean, I am adamant about flushing through inventory. You know, our business is all about freshness and newness and excitement in the store, more so maybe than other retailers, because we are all about the deal. We want to make way for the deals that are coming through. If our sales are going to be soft, I have to anticipate that we're going to need some markdowns. We currently are taking markdowns right now in the stores and reacting to categories that need to be alleviated.

You know, my point of view and I think I hope it is the right one -- is if you have to take markdowns, takes them in the stores when you've got the optimum amount of traffic in your stores. We have a whole lot more traffic in our stores between November 30 and December 25 than we do on December 26 through January 31, so we're starting to react where we need to react right now. It's clearly a markdown issue; that's it. It's not a market issue. It's a markdown issue.
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Yes, there's a mix component, but it's not merely to the significance of the allowance for markdowns to make sure we are clean at the end of the quarter.
 

 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 Okay -- just because a lot of retailers are out there -- you know, Target and some of the Dollar Store guys are talking about mix in general, people pulling back on the discretionary stuff. You're not forecasting that to be an issue in the upcoming quarter (multiple speakers).
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 Yes. Remember, we had already forecasted weakness in Home and Toys, which were higher-margin categories, so we had some of that built into our original forecast. Now, fall Seasonal has come off, has had a slow start. So as I said, there is a mix component but the increment down is principally markdowns. That's to accommodate and make sure, going into '08, that we're clean.
 

 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 

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 No, it makes a lot of sense. Then Steve, just to your comment earlier about traffic, could you comment on traffic? I hopped on a couple of minutes late; I don't know if you alluded to it earlier in the call but (multiple speakers) in the quarter and I guess how it looked in November, particularly the Black Friday weekend. We are hearing that Black Friday was pretty weak and I'm just wondering what you guys saw.
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 You know, we don't comment on traffic, Charles, and I know that everybody hates that, but you know, we talk about "raising the ring" and the average basket and those kinds of things. I would tell you this though. The customers were extremely focused on the deal and they were extremely focused on coming in when they saw something they wanted and bought and put it in the basket, and left. I know that we are no different than any other retailer out there. I would say it was fairly consistent [then] probably consistent with a way that it's been, quite honestly since then and slightly before them, for us.

I was out in a lot of stores, just like you guys were, and I saw a lot of different situations and a lot of different retailers, but it was a very early morning, Thursday morning, Friday morning and Saturday morning in the stores that I was in. And I was in a lot more other competitor stores than I was in our stores -- about 50-50 and the traffic was much heavier for early morning bargains than it was after the early morning bargains were over.
 

 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 Yes, we saw the same thing. Joe, for you, just you know, you continue to lever D&A nicely. I think it was roughly 30 basis points this quarter. When you look to next year, do you still expect to build a lever there, particularly if you start to take store growth up a little bit? I know you're not taking it up a lot, but even just a little bit -- you know, what are your expectations there?
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Well, I don't want to start going down too much an '08 road, but we would anticipate continued slight leverage there. But of course, we haven't given specific CapEx guidance for next year, but we did give the three-year guidance at the beginning of this year, so you are aware we're going to complete our POS program next year and we have some other initiatives. But to answer your question, slight leverage should continue.
 

 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 One last one if I may? Steve, for you, in terms of store growth, you're saying that you're seeing some deals start to open up. You know, is your plan, longer-term, to open up stores organically? You know, you don't have a lot of debt on your balance sheet. Would you lever up to potentially purchase a competitor or do some type of acquisition, just hypothetically?
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 We would do anything. If it made sense for us to do it, we absolutely would do it. We are not afraid to lever up. I think we've kind of demonstrated, in a very small way -- this question has been asked many, many times. One, we want to open new stores if it's right for us. I spoke to it this morning and I spoke to it every time we've had a conference call.

Secondly, if for some reason or another, there was something that made sense for us out there, we would absolutely take a look at it and we're always taking a look at it.

Thirdly, I think we've demonstrated -- because people have said before, would you lever up? I mean, I know it's very small number in the big scheme of things, but we're saying right now that we're going to have some debt on our balance sheet coming out of this year and potentially if we can buy back more shares at the right price, because we believe in the model and we think that the strategy is right, and we absolutely think that we are an incredible value. If we believe that, we should be out there buying the stock back, and that's exactly what we are doing. If that means we have to lever up a little bit to do it, we're absolutely not afraid to do it. Even more importantly, our Board of Directors is 100% behind us and supported us in that decision.
 

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 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 Right. Then Joe, just, you know, to your point, though, I mean, I realize you don't have a lot of debt on your balance sheet, but if you adjust for leases, let's say if you capitalize (inaudible) times, you do actually have a pretty high leverage, particularly relative to most of retail. I mean, can you give us some sense of where you're comfortable at least carrying that ratio going forward?
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Well, actually with the shortness of our leases, even with our bank agreement, if you've ever read it, we multiply 4 times. So, I understand the debt agency's calculations on that going 8 times, but the true, if you want to call off balance sheet debt component, is not that high.

I would just say that we can certainly support significant debt under our loan agreements. We could support more debt under any BBBB-, which we are S&P rated -- those type of ratios that equal our investment-grade ratings. So the two, the debt that we would incur to execute this incremental share repurchase program does not put us close to any sort of issues in any way, even with the capitalized leases with the rating agency.

But as far as specifics, how much would I feel comfortable with? That's a case-by-case basis, Chuck. You know, it depends on what we are investing in at the time and what the return on that investment will be.
 

 Charles Grom - JPMorgan Chase & Co. - Analyst
 
 I got you. Okay, thanks very much.
 

Operator
 
 Jeff Stein, KeyBanc Capital Markets.
 

 Jeff Stein - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
 
 Back to the question, Joe, for a moment, on SG&A leverage -- what kind of comp next year, based on the way you see your cost structure laying out, what kind of comp next year do you need to lever SG&A?
 

 Joe Cooper - Big Lots, Inc. - SVP, CFO
 
 Well, in the prepared remarks, Jeff, -- it's a good question; we've certainly modeled that. But what we said is, this year, it's about 0. What our remarks were is that, in the near-term, we would expect it to stay low, but we're not commenting specifically what that SG&A leverage point would be right now.
 

 Jeff Stein - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
 
 Okay, fair enough. Steve, you mentioned that furniture has stayed strong but that the mix has changed somewhat. I'm wondering if you could just comment a little bit more regarding what has changed there.
 

 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 It's not what I would consider to be insignificant, but I would be more than happy to comment on it. You know, the upholstery part of our business has just been incredibly strong for a three-year period. We've gone quarter after quarter after quarter after quarter and we've seen a little bit of a slow-up in that piece of the business.
 
 
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On the other hand, we've had two parts of the business that were not as strong as I wanted them to be. One was RTA, and we worked very hard on that, and we've seen some real positive things happen on that piece of the business. We had a really nice third quarter and hopefully things will continue there.

The other piece we've had a really difficult time with is predominantly case goods, although case goods is mostly bedroom, but it also includes, in the buying responsibility, dining and barstools and accessories. We've worked really hard on that part of the business and have a new management team in there that we're really seeing some great things out of that part of the business. So we are really unbelievably excited about that piece, that it just continues to move on and on and on and on.

The only reason, in our opinion, upholstery may have slowed up slightly is newness and freshness. Our customer demands and expects newness and freshness, and we're going to do whatever it takes to make some changes there. But I have to tell you, I want to quantify it; it's not what I consider to be a huge problem. It's just not running at the same vibrate pace as it's been running for the last 36 months.

 

 Jeff Stein - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
 
 I got you. Can you comment also on Home, in terms of what areas of the Home have been weak and what corrective measures you've been taking there and when that area would be expected to be reset and hopefully ready for better results?



 Steve Fishman - Big Lots, Inc. - Chairman and CEO
 
 Well, I won't say reset because we're not a traditional retailer. Remember that, Jeff. So it's all about the newness and the excitement and the deals.

I will speak to different pieces of the business. The domestics part of the business has actually been stronger than the rest of the parts of the business, and although as not a strong as I would like it to be, it continues to lead the way. The difficulty has really been in the housewares area, and the decorative accessories area, and picture frame area. We're working very, very hard with a new, talented merchandising organization there that probably just hasn't had the opportunity yet to get their feet on the ground and effectively get changed the way would like it. I mean, we've got some real good things that they were able to do quickly in their new responsibilities for the fourth quarter, and I think there's some exciting things you would find in the store on an individual basis. But I think it's going to be the spring to the summer before we see something happening.

Look. We all have heard the same thing. The Home business has been challenged for a little while. We weren't as challenged as some of the other people were, and now we're starting to feel that effect. But we're taking a look at ourselves there, so it's cookware, housewares, decorative accessories.
 

 Jeff Stein - KeyBanc Capital Markets - Analyst
 
 I got you. Thank you very much.
 

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