Segment Data - Components of Loss before Income Taxes Included in Other (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Aug. 03, 2018	Aug. 04, 2017	Aug. 03, 2018	Aug. 04, 2017
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Interest expense	$ (4,676)	$ (4,750)	$ (14,214)	$ (14,309)
Other income	5,057	5,349	12,951	12,916
Earnings before income taxes	93,275	88,383	328,826	306,257
Other
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Corporate expenses	(21,597)	(22,174)	(67,094)	(72,385)
Interest expense	(4,676)	(4,750)	(14,214)	(14,309)
Other income	5,830	6,579	13,508	15,441
Earnings before income taxes	$ (20,443)	$ (20,345)	$ (67,800)	$ (71,253)