Segment Data - Components of Loss before Income Taxes Included in Other (Details) - USD ($) $ in Thousands	3 Months Ended
	Feb. 02, 2018	Feb. 03, 2017
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Interest expense	$ (4,818)	$ (4,883)
Other income	4,281	3,866
Earnings before income taxes	66,385	59,553
Other
Components of the loss before income taxes included in "Other"
Corporate expenses	(24,401)	(23,961)
Interest expense	(4,818)	(4,883)
Other income	3,979	3,673
Earnings before income taxes	$ (25,240)	$ (25,171)