COVER 5 filename5.txt July 25, 2005 Daniel Duchovny Office of Mergers and Acquisitions Securities and Exchange Commission 450 Fifth Street, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20549-0303 Re: Angeles Partners XII, Schedule TO-T filed July 1, 2005 by MacKenzie Patterson Fuller, Inc. and its affiliates, the Purchasers SEC File No. 5-50745 Dear Mr. Duchovny: Thank you for your letter dated July 8, 2005 regarding our recent Schedule TO-T. I will respond to the questions you asked in your letter in the order in which you posed them. 1. This is a newspaper with national circulation. In conjunction with our mailing, we believe that this satisfies our obligation to disseminate materials to all unitholders. Further, our only purpose of publishing the advertisement is to force the General Partner to provide us the list of limited partners. 2. We have extended the Offer. 3. Financial statements of the purchasers would not add material disclosure to the available information. As disclosed, the offer will be funded through the existing capital of the purchasers. As stated in the offer materials, the purchasers have aggregate capital which is more than adequate to fund the offer. The specific facts and circumstances of this offer should be understood. Absent a tender offer filed under Section 14(d)(1) of the Securities Exchange Act, the purchasers would have little or no access to the security holders and the holders would have little or no access to potential purchasers. Because of the lack of liquidity of the securities, the uncertainty as to the underlying value of the securities and the issuer's assets, and the extraordinary per unit costs of using a tender offer as the means for purchasing the securities, the offer prices are substantially discounted from the estimates of liquidation value of the issuers. It is therefore anticipated that only those securities holders who have an immediate need for liquidity will seek to sell their securities. Based on the extensive past experience of both the purchasers and others who have tendered for illiquid securities in similar circumstances, the purchasers do not reasonably expect to receive more than 10% to 25% of the total number of securities sought and will likely receive substantially less than that. Of course, the purchasers could have tendered for 100% and would not have expected any different response, but such a tender would have been unrealistic. Accordingly, while the purchasers are prepared and able to fund the entire offer, as a practical matter, the actual funds July 25, 2005 Page 2 of 3 necessary to complete the offer are reasonably expected to be substantially less than the cash reserves held by the purchasers. This offer is for immediate cash payment and no securities of the bidder are to be used. No evaluation of securities or credit risk is therefore relevant to this offer. The bidder neither seeks control, nor would it, if successful in purchasing all securities sought, gain control of any issuer, so no evaluation of the bidders' financial condition is relevant in that respect. No market exists for the securities and no competing bidder is seeking to purchase the securities, so no real alternative opportunities are available to be evaluated over the period of the offer. Given the circumstances and terms of this offer, to require inclusion of financial statements for this offer would involve unnecessary and unreasonable time, effort, and expense, without providing any more material information to prospective sellers than the information presented in the Offer. Any additional document preparation, financial statement preparation, and subsequent mailing costs would add substantial additional cost to the offer without any material impact on disclosure. Based on the foregoing, we believe the financial statements presented together with disclosure of the other sources of funds provide all financial information material to a security holder's evaluation of the offer. We not only disclose that we will finance the Offer with cash on hand, we also disclose the amount of cash on hand that we have to finance the Offer as well as the fact that we have sufficient cash on hand to finance all other outstanding offers. Furthermore, we note that a tender offer for limited partnership differs substantially from a tender offer for shares of a corporation in that a large ownership of stock in a corporation can result in effective control, whereas the same is not true for a limited partnership. A 15% stockholder in a public corporation might be able to influence the make-up if not the decisions of the board of directors, and therefore of the company, but a 15% limited partner has no control over the management of the partnership whatsoever. In fact, by state law, a limited partner CANNOT have control over the day-to-day management of the Partnership or the limited partner loses limited liability. The only way a limited partner can influence the Partnership is by replacing the general partner, which usually requires a majority vote (as opposed to plurality for boards of directors), and often the replacement of a general partner is subject to other restrictions. Thus, the threshold for when a bidder in a tender offer for limited partnership units is tendering for a sufficient number of units such that those deciding whether to tender might find the bidder's financial statements material must be higher (at least 50%, I would argue). 4. We agree that all conditions must be satisfied or waived prior to expiration and that we cannot accept securities prior to expiration. Nonetheless, the depository has signed letters of transmittal prior to expiration, hence the disclosure. 5. The protections are too numerous to describe in detail and are not material to an investor's decision as to whether or not to tender. 6. Thank you for pointing out the typographical error. We are noting that in the revised materials. July 25, 2005 Page 3 of 3 7. It is not a condition to the Offer any more than actually tendering shares would be. I.e., if a tendering unit holder does not own any units, they will not be paid for the units. SEC guidance has recognized that limited partnership tender offers may delay payment until confirmation of ownership; that is all this is doing. 8. Reviewing the definition, it would appear that you are commenting that we should not define business day with respect to Pacific Time but should use Eastern Time. Given that our Offer expires at midnight Pacific Time, it made sense to define "business day" with respect to Pacific Time. If we extend the Offer, we have to keep it open for another ten business days. If we defined "business day" with respect to Eastern Time, we'd be extending the Offer from midnight Pacific Time to midnight Eastern Time 10 business days later, which would be less than 10 full business days. Furthermore, the definition is modified with respect to announcements of extensions of the Offer such that the press release is issued by 9 a.m. Eastern Time. Moreover, it does not appear that withdrawal rights are dependent upon this definition. 9. The Partnership has been selling properties. That is what we mean by "ongoing liquidation." 10. We confirm that our estimate of fees includes payment of transfer fees. 11. Any authorizations or approvals from "any court, administrative agency or other governmental authority necessary for the consummation of the transactions contemplated by the Offer." 12. This is our standard allocation scheme; given that no Purchasers own Units, that preference will have no effect. We will delete it. 13. You have requested that we acknowledge, and we hereby acknowledge (and we have the authority to do so on behalf of all filing persons), that we are responsible for the adequacy and accuracy of the disclosure in the filings and that staff comments or changes to disclosure in response to staff comments in the filings reviewed by the staff do not foreclose the Commission from taking any action with respect to the filing and that we may not assert staff comments as a defense in any proceeding initiated by the Commission or any person under the federal securities laws of the United States. Please let me know if you have any questions or further comments. Very Truly Yours, /s/ Chip Patterson Chip Patterson Vice President and General Counsel (925) 631-9100 ext. 206 (925) 871-4046 (Fax) chip@mpfi.com