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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0001209191-08-066277.txt : 20081217
<SEC-HEADER>0001209191-08-066277.hdr.sgml : 20081217
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20081217160700
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-08-066277
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20081215
FILED AS OF DATE:		20081217
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20081217

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			CLAY ROBERT N
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001196953

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		081255066

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		CLAY HOLDING CO
		STREET 2:		THREE CHIMNEYS FARM PO BOX 114
		CITY:			MIDWAY
		STATE:			KY
		ZIP:			40347
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    <footnotes>
        <footnote id="F1">Dividend reinvestment shares acquired.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">The reporting person first assumed investment control of the securities held by this LLC upon his father's death on 8/21/2002.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">The reporting person first assumed investment control of the securities held by this LLC upon his father's death on 8/21/2002.  The reporting person disclaims ownership of these securities and this report shall not be deemed an admission that the reporting person is the beneficial owner of such securities for purposes of Section 16 of for any other purposes.</footnote>
    </footnotes>

    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>Lori A. Hasselman, Attorney-in-Fact for Robert N. Clay</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2008-12-17</signatureDate>
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