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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0001209191-08-051291.txt : 20080910
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<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20080910161014
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-08-051291
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20080908
FILED AS OF DATE:		20080910
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20080910

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			KELSON RICHARD B
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001143958

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		081065370

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O WESTVACO CORP
		STREET 2:		299 PARK AVENUE
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10017
		BUSINESS PHONE:		9374953710

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		MEADWESTVACO CORPORATION
		STREET 2:		ONE HIGH RIDGE PARK
		CITY:			STAMFORD
		STATE:			CT
		ZIP:			06905
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        <issuerName>PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC</issuerName>
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            <rptOwnerCity>NEW YORK</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>NY</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>10028</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
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            <isOfficer>0</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
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    </reportingOwner>

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            <securityTitle>
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            <transactionDate>
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            </transactionDate>
            <deemedExecutionDate></deemedExecutionDate>
            <transactionCoding>
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            <transactionTimeliness>
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                <transactionPricePerShare>
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            <transactionDate>
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    <derivativeTable>
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                <value>Non-Employee Director Non-Statutory Stock Option</value>
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            <transactionAmounts>
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                    <value>2000</value>
                </transactionShares>
                <transactionPricePerShare>
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                </transactionPricePerShare>
                <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
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            <exerciseDate>
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            <expirationDate>
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                <underlyingSecurityTitle>
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    <footnotes></footnotes>

    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>Lori A. Hasselman, Attorney-in-Fact for Richard B. Kelson</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2008-09-10</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>
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