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<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20071121181248
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-07-065814
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20071115
FILED AS OF DATE:		20071121
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20071121

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			MUTTERPERL WILLIAM C
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001201114

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		071264187

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
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        <footnote id="F1">Dividend reinvestment shares acquired.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">Shares withheld to satisfy tax liability resulting from the vesting of restricted stock previously granted.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">One phantom stock unit is the economic equivalent of one share of PNC Common Stock.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Supplemental Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon distribution from the reporting person's plan account and generally do not expire.</footnote>
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    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>Lori A. Hasselman, Attorney-in-Fact for William C. Mutterperl</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2007-11-21</signatureDate>
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