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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0001209191-07-056765.txt : 20071003
<SEC-HEADER>0001209191-07-056765.hdr.sgml : 20071003
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20071003162022
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0001209191-07-056765
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20071001
FILED AS OF DATE:		20071003
DATE AS OF CHANGE:		20071003

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222
		BUSINESS PHONE:		412-762-2000

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVENUE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			CHELLGREN PAUL W
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001023533

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		071153776

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		PO BOX 391
		CITY:			ASHLAND
		STATE:			KY
		ZIP:			41114
		BUSINESS PHONE:		6063293333

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O ASHLAND INC
		STREET 2:		1000 ASHLAND DRIVE PO BOX 391
		CITY:			RUSSELL
		STATE:			KY
		ZIP:			41169
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                    <value>I</value>
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        <footnote id="F1">Dividend reinvestment shares acquired.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F2">The reporting person disclaims ownership of these securities and this report shall not be deemed an admission that the reporting person is the beneficial owner of such securities for purposes of Section 16 or for any other purposes.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F3">1 for 1.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Outside Directors Deferred Stock Unit Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon distribution from the reporting person's plan account and generally do not expire.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F6">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
        <footnote id="F7">Phantom Stock Units received under the PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
    </footnotes>

    <remarks></remarks>

    <ownerSignature>
        <signatureName>Lori A. Hasselman, Attorney-in-Fact for Paul W. Chellgren</signatureName>
        <signatureDate>2007-10-03</signatureDate>
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