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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0000713676-04-000023.txt : 20040105
<SEC-HEADER>0000713676-04-000023.hdr.sgml : 20040105
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20040105163549
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0000713676-04-000023
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20031231
FILED AS OF DATE:		20040105

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			CLAY ROBERT N
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001196953

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	001-09718
		FILM NUMBER:		04505540

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		CLAY HOLDING CO
		STREET 2:		THREE CHIMNEYS FARM PO BOX 114
		CITY:			MIDWAY
		STATE:			KY
		ZIP:			40347

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265
		BUSINESS PHONE:		4127621553

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		FIFTH AVENUE & WOOD STREET
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412
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            <rptOwnerState>KY</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>40383</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
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   <footnote id="F1">Annual grant pursuant to the PNC Director Share Incentive Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F2">The reporting person assumed control of securities held by LLC upon father's death on 8/21/02.  The reporting person disclaims ownership. This report shall not be deemed an admission that the reporting person owns such securities for purposes of Sec. 16 or any other purpose.          </footnote>
   <footnote id="F3">The reporting person first assumed investment control over the securities held by this limited liability company upon his father'
s death on August 21, 2002.          </footnote>
   <footnote id="F4">1 for 1.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F6">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon the reporting person's retirement or other termination of service and generally
do not expire.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F7">Phantom Stock Units received under the PNC Directors Deferred Compensation Plan during 2003.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F8">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Outside Directors Deferred Stock Unit Plan.</footnote>
</footnotes>
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       <signatureName>Mark C. Joseph, Attorney-in-Fact for Robert N. Clay</signatureName>
       <signatureDate>2004-01-05</signatureDate>
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