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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0000713676-03-000340.txt : 20031218
<SEC-HEADER>0000713676-03-000340.hdr.sgml : 20031218
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20031218131005
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0000713676-03-000340
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20031202
FILED AS OF DATE:		20031218

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			OBRIEN THOMAS H
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001174642

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	033-35026
		FILM NUMBER:		031061785

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		4951 LAKE BROOK DR
		STREET 2:		STE 500
		CITY:			GLEN ALLEN
		STATE:			VA
		ZIP:			23060

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265
		BUSINESS PHONE:		4127621553

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		FIFTH AVENUE & WOOD STREET
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412
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<TYPE>4
<SEQUENCE>1
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<DESCRIPTION>PRIMARY DOCUMENT
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    <documentType>4</documentType>
    <periodOfReport>2003-12-02</periodOfReport>
    <notSubjectToSection16>0</notSubjectToSection16>
    <issuer>
        <issuerCik>0000713676</issuerCik>
        <issuerName>PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>PNC</issuerTradingSymbol>
    </issuer>

    <reportingOwner>
        <reportingOwnerId>
            <rptOwnerCik>0001174642</rptOwnerCik>
            <rptOwnerName>OBRIEN THOMAS H</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
            <rptOwnerStreet1>THE PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP, INC.</rptOwnerStreet1>
            <rptOwnerStreet2>ONE PNC PLAZA, 2ND FLOOR</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>PITTSBURGH</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>PA</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>15222-2707</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
        </reportingOwnerAddress>
            <reportingOwnerRelationship>
            <isDirector>1</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>0</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
        </reportingOwnerRelationship>
    </reportingOwner>
  <nonDerivativeTable>
   <nonDerivativeTransaction>
      <securityTitle>
          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
      </securityTitle>
      <transactionDate>
          <value>2003-12-02</value>
      </transactionDate>
      <transactionCoding>
          <transactionFormType>5</transactionFormType>
          <transactionCode>G</transactionCode>
          <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
      </transactionCoding>
      <transactionTimeliness>
      <value />
      </transactionTimeliness>
      <transactionAmounts>
          <transactionShares>
              <value>4379.00</value>
          </transactionShares>
          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>0</value>
          </transactionPricePerShare>
          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
              <value>D</value>
          </transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
      </transactionAmounts>
      <postTransactionAmounts>
          <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
              <value>284241.00</value>
          </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>D</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
      </ownershipNature>
   </nonDerivativeTransaction>
   <nonDerivativeTransaction>
      <securityTitle>
          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
      </securityTitle>
      <transactionDate>
          <value>2003-10-24</value>
      </transactionDate>
      <transactionCoding>
          <transactionFormType>5</transactionFormType>
          <transactionCode>J</transactionCode>
          <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
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      <transactionTimeliness>
      <value />
      </transactionTimeliness>
      <transactionAmounts>
          <transactionShares>
              <value>102.00</value>
          </transactionShares>
          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>50.87</value>
          </transactionPricePerShare>
          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
              <value>A</value>
          </transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
      </transactionAmounts>
      <postTransactionAmounts>
          <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
              <value>10655.00</value>
          </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
              <value>401(K) Plan</value>
          </natureOfOwnership>
      </ownershipNature>
   </nonDerivativeTransaction>
    <nonDerivativeHolding>
      <securityTitle>
          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
      </securityTitle>
      <postTransactionAmounts>
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          </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
              <value>By Spouse</value>
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          </natureOfOwnership>
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      <securityTitle>
          <value>Phantom Stock Unit</value>
      </securityTitle>
      <conversionOrExercisePrice>
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      <transactionDate>
          <value>2003-10-24</value>
      </transactionDate>
      <transactionCoding>
          <transactionFormType>5</transactionFormType>
          <transactionCode>J</transactionCode>
          <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
              <footnoteId id="F4" />
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      <transactionAmounts>
          <transactionShares>
              <value>16.00</value>
          </transactionShares>
          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>50.87</value>
          </transactionPricePerShare>
          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
              <value>A</value>
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      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
              <value>Deferred Stock Unit Plan</value>
          </natureOfOwnership>
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      <securityTitle>
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      <transactionCoding>
          <transactionFormType>5</transactionFormType>
          <transactionCode>J</transactionCode>
          <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
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          <transactionShares>
              <value>367.00</value>
          </transactionShares>
          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>50.87</value>
          </transactionPricePerShare>
          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
              <value>A</value>
          </transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
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      <exerciseDate>
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      <expirationDate>
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      <underlyingSecurity>
          <underlyingSecurityTitle>
              <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
          </underlyingSecurityTitle>
          <underlyingSecurityShares>
              <value>367.00</value>
          </underlyingSecurityShares>
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      <postTransactionAmounts>
          <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
              <value>37732.00</value>
          </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
              <value>Supplemental ISP</value>
          </natureOfOwnership>
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<footnotes>
   <footnote id="F1">These shares were acquired during the fourth quarter of 2003 pursuant to the PNC Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F2">The reporting person disclaims ownership of these securities and this report shall not be deemed an admission that the reporting person is the beneficial owner of such securities for purposes of Section 16 or for any other purposes.     </footnote>
   <footnote id="F3">1 for 1.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under PNC Outside Directors Deferred Stock Unit Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon the reporting person's retirement or other termination of service and generally
do not expire.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F6">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Supplemental Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
</footnotes>
<remarks></remarks>    <ownerSignature>
       <signatureName>Mark C. Joseph, Attorney-in-fact for Thomas H. O'Brien</signatureName>
       <signatureDate>2003-12-18</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>

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