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<SEC-DOCUMENT>0000713676-03-000328.txt : 20031119
<SEC-HEADER>0000713676-03-000328.hdr.sgml : 20031119
<ACCEPTANCE-DATETIME>20031119095504
ACCESSION NUMBER:		0000713676-03-000328
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20031117
FILED AS OF DATE:		20031119

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			GUYAUX JOSEPH C
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001194841

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	033-35026
		FILM NUMBER:		031011724

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		249 FIFTH AVE
		STREET 2:		P1-POPP-30-1
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265
		BUSINESS PHONE:		4127621553

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		FIFTH AVENUE & WOOD STREET
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412
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    <documentType>4</documentType>
    <periodOfReport>2003-11-17</periodOfReport>
    <notSubjectToSection16>0</notSubjectToSection16>
    <issuer>
        <issuerCik>0000713676</issuerCik>
        <issuerName>PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC</issuerName>
        <issuerTradingSymbol>PNC</issuerTradingSymbol>
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        <reportingOwnerId>
            <rptOwnerCik>0001194841</rptOwnerCik>
            <rptOwnerName>GUYAUX JOSEPH C</rptOwnerName>
        </reportingOwnerId>
        <reportingOwnerAddress>
            <rptOwnerStreet1>THE PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP, INC.TH</rptOwnerStreet1>
            <rptOwnerStreet2>ONE PNC PLAZAONE PNC PLAZA</rptOwnerStreet2>
            <rptOwnerCity>PITTSBURGH,</rptOwnerCity>
            <rptOwnerState>PA</rptOwnerState>
            <rptOwnerZipCode>15222-2707</rptOwnerZipCode>
            <rptOwnerStateDescription></rptOwnerStateDescription>
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            <reportingOwnerRelationship>
            <isDirector>0</isDirector>
            <isOfficer>1</isOfficer>
            <isTenPercentOwner>0</isTenPercentOwner>
            <isOther>0</isOther>
            <officerTitle>President</officerTitle>
        </reportingOwnerRelationship>
    </reportingOwner>
  <nonDerivativeTable>
   <nonDerivativeTransaction>
      <securityTitle>
          <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
      </securityTitle>
      <transactionDate>
          <value>2003-11-17</value>
      </transactionDate>
      <transactionCoding>
          <transactionFormType>4</transactionFormType>
          <transactionCode>F</transactionCode>
          <equitySwapInvolved>0</equitySwapInvolved>
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      </transactionCoding>
      <transactionTimeliness>
      <value />
      </transactionTimeliness>
      <transactionAmounts>
          <transactionShares>
              <value>9082.00</value>
          </transactionShares>
          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>53.625</value>
          </transactionPricePerShare>
          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
              <value>D</value>
          </transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
      </transactionAmounts>
      <postTransactionAmounts>
          <sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
              <value>93020.00</value>
          </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
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              <value>D</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
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      <securityTitle>
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      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
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          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
          <natureOfOwnership>
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          </natureOfOwnership>
      </ownershipNature>
   </nonDerivativeHolding>
  </nonDerivativeTable>
  <derivativeTable>
  </derivativeTable>
<footnotes>
   <footnote id="F1">Shares withheld to satisfy tax liability resulting from the vesting of shares of restricted stock previously granted.</footnote>
</footnotes>
<remarks></remarks>    <ownerSignature>
       <signatureName>Mark C. Joseph, Attorney-in-Fact for Joseph C. Guyaux</signatureName>
       <signatureDate>2003-11-19</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>

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