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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0000713676-03-000300
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	4
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20031027
FILED AS OF DATE:		20031029

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			WHITFORD THOMAS K
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001194849

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		4
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	033-35026
		FILM NUMBER:		03962993

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		249 FIFTH AVE
		STREET 2:		P1-POPP-30-1
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15222

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000713676
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	NATIONAL COMMERCIAL BANKS [6021]
		IRS NUMBER:				251435979
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			PA
		FISCAL YEAR END:			1231

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		249 FIFTH AVE
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265
		BUSINESS PHONE:		4127621553

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		ONE PNC PLAZA
		STREET 2:		FIFTH AVENUE & WOOD STREET
		CITY:			PITTSBURGH
		STATE:			PA
		ZIP:			15265

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930505

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC BANK CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930428

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	PNC FINANCIAL CORP /PA/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19930412
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              <value>104.00</value>
          </transactionShares>
          <transactionPricePerShare>
              <value>0</value>
          </transactionPricePerShare>
          <transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
              <value>A</value>
          </transactionAcquiredDisposedCode>
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      <exerciseDate>
              <footnoteId id="F5" />
      </exerciseDate>
      <expirationDate>
              <footnoteId id="F5" />
      </expirationDate>
      <underlyingSecurity>
          <underlyingSecurityTitle>
              <value>$5 Par Common Stock</value>
          </underlyingSecurityTitle>
          <underlyingSecurityShares>
              <value>104.00</value>
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      </underlyingSecurity>
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              <value>3990.00</value>
          </sharesOwnedFollowingTransaction>
      </postTransactionAmounts>
      <ownershipNature>
          <directOrIndirectOwnership>
              <value>I</value>
          </directOrIndirectOwnership>
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              <value>Supplemental ISP</value>
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<footnotes>
   <footnote id="F1">These shares were acquired during the third quarter of 2003 pursuant to the PNC Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F2">Shares were acquired pursuant to the PNC Incentive Savings Plan at various prices from $47.23 to $48.95.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F3">1 for 1.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F4">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Deferred Compensation Plan.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F5">Phantom Stock Units will be settled in cash upon the reporting person's retirement or other termination of service and generally
do not expire.</footnote>
   <footnote id="F6">Phantom Stock Units received as dividend equivalents under the PNC Supplemental Incentive Savings Plan.</footnote>
</footnotes>
<remarks></remarks>    <ownerSignature>
       <signatureName>Mark C. Joseph, Attorney-In-Fact for Thomas K. Whitford</signatureName>
       <signatureDate>2003-10-29</signatureDate>
    </ownerSignature>
</ownershipDocument>

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