18. Commitments

Operating Leases

We conduct retail operations under operating leases, which expire at various dates through 2034. Some of the leases contain escalation clauses, as well as renewal options, and provide for contingent rent based upon sales plus certain tax and maintenance costs.

Future minimum rental payments (excluding real estate tax and maintenance costs) for retail locations and other leases that have initial or noncancelable lease terms are as follows for the fiscal year ending September 30:


2014	$	115,937
2015		100,295
2016		90,349
2017		78,356
2018		66,190
Thereafter		232,087

	$	683,214

Operating lease rent expense (including real estate taxes and maintenance costs) and leases on a month to month basis were approximately $146,843, $153,763 and $149,921 during fiscal 2013, 2012 and 2011, respectively.

Capital Commitments

We had approximately $5,402 in open capital commitments at September 30, 2013, primarily related to leasehold improvements, as well as manufacturing equipment, computer hardware and software.