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New Valley LLC (Details) (USD $)
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Sep. 30, 2012
Sep. 30, 2011
Dec. 31, 2011
Sep. 30, 2012
New Valley LLC [Member]
Dec. 31, 2011
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Sep. 30, 2012
Douglas Elliman Realty LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
Douglas Elliman Realty LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
Douglas Elliman Realty LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
Douglas Elliman Realty LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
Douglas Elliman Realty LLC [Member]
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Apr. 30, 2012
Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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units
Sep. 30, 2012
New Valley Oaktree Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
New Valley Oaktree Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
New Valley Oaktree Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
New Valley Oaktree Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
New Valley Oaktree Chelsea Eleven LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2010
Fifty Third-Five Building LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
Fifty Third-Five Building LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
Fifty Third-Five Building LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
Sesto Holdings S r. l. [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
Sesto Holdings S r. l. [Member]
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Oct. 31, 2010
Sesto Holdings S r. l. [Member]
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Oct. 31, 2010
Sesto Holdings Land Investment [Member]
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Acre
Sep. 30, 2012
1107 Broadway [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
1107 Broadway [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
Lofts 21 LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
Lofts 21 LLC [Member]
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Feb. 28, 2011
Lofts 21 LLC [Member]
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Oct. 31, 2011
Hill Street Partners [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
Hotel Taiwana LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
Hotel Taiwana LLC [Member]
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Oct. 31, 2011
Hotel Taiwana LLC [Member]
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Sep. 28, 2012
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Jan. 31, 2012
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Nov. 03, 2011
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Jan. 31, 2012
NV Socal LLC [Member]
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Non-recourse Repurchase Facility [Member]
Jan. 31, 2012
NV Socal LLC [Member]
New Valley LLC [Member]
Winthrop Realty Trust [Member]
Non-recourse Repurchase Facility [Member]
Oct. 28, 2011
NV Socal LLC [Member]
Class C [Member]
Sep. 30, 2012
HFZ East 68th Street [Member]
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sqft
story
Dec. 31, 2011
HFZ East 68th Street [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
11 Beach Street Investor LLC [Member]
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Jun. 30, 2012
11 Beach Street Investor LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
11 Beach Street Investor LLC [Member]
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Jul. 31, 2012
NV Maryland LLC [Member]
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units
Sep. 30, 2012
NV Maryland LLC [Member]
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Dec. 31, 2011
NV Maryland LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
NV 701 Seventh Avenue LLC [Member]
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building
sqft
Dec. 31, 2011
NV 701 Seventh Avenue LLC [Member]
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Jun. 30, 2012
St Regis Hotel Washngton D C [Member]
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Jun. 30, 2011
St Regis Hotel Washngton D C [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2012
St Regis Hotel Washngton D C [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
St Regis Hotel Washngton D C [Member]
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Jun. 30, 2011
Aberdeen Townhomes LLC [Member]
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Feb. 28, 2011
Aberdeen Townhomes LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
Aberdeen Townhomes LLC [Member]
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Sep. 30, 2011
Aberdeen Townhomes LLC [Member]
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Oct. 31, 2012
Real Estate Investment [Member]
NV 701 Seventh Avenue LLC [Member]
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Schedule of Investments [Line Items]                                                                                                                          
Investments in non-consolidated real estate businesses $ 123,877   $ 124,469 $ 123,877 $ 124,469 $ 62,351   $ 62,351   $ 53,970     $ 0   $ 0   $ 6,320 $ 18,000 $ 18,000 $ 18,000 $ 5,037 $ 5,037 $ 5,000   $ 5,489 $ 5,489 $ 900 $ 900 $ 900 $ 2,658 $ 2,658 $ 2,658     $ 0 $ 0   $ 25,095 $ 25,000       $ 7,000 $ 7,000 $ 9,642 $ 9,642 $ 0 $ 5,000 $ 5,000 $ 0 $ 7,800 $ 0                 $ 1,420
Equity income from non-consolidated real estate businesses           5,223 5,496 11,596 14,297       0 1,000 2,118 3,000                                     7,651 7,180                                     75 300          
Distributions from non-consolidated real estate businesses 31,221 6,752       325 2,216 3,214 6,016       0 4,327 8,439 5,940                                   32,275                                     75 300              
Units sold                     2                                                                                                    
Number of units closed                       54                                                                                                  
Maximum exposure to loss as a result of this investment                         0   0       18,000   5,037       5,489   900       2,658       0 0             7,000     9,642     5,000   7,800                    
Ownership Percentage                                   50.00%         7.20% 42.00%   5.00%     12.00% 17.39%     37.00%       42.19%   26.00%         18.00%       33.00%     15.00%                    
Payments to Acquire Defaulted Real Estate Loans                                   35,500                                                                                      
Area Of Real Estate Property                                               322                                                                          
Number of Units in Real Estate Property                                                                 30                             5,500                 2        
C-Note                                                                               40,000   117,900                                      
Purchase price of C-Note                                                                                   96,700                                      
Debt Instrument, Face Amount Net of Expenses                                                                                 38,100                                        
Number of stories in real estate property                                                                                     12                                    
Square Footage of Real Estate Property                                                                                     105,000               120,000                    
Additional real estate investment to be made                                                                                         1,321           14,000                    
Estimated Equity Method Investment Ownership Percentage                                                                                         49.00%                                
Percentage ownership in real estate portfolio                                                                                               25.00%                          
Number of buildings                                                                                                     2                    
Sale of Aberdeen townhome                                                                                                                 7,994 11,635      
Gain on sale of townhomes                                                                                                                     $ 10 $ 3,722