Comprehensive Income and Shareholders Equity (Details 2) (USD $) In Millions, except Share data in Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended				9 Months Ended		12 Months Ended
	Jul. 31, 2012	Apr. 30, 2012	Jan. 31, 2012	Jul. 31, 2011	Jul. 31, 2012	Jul. 31, 2011	Oct. 31, 2011	Oct. 31, 2010
Components of Shareholders' Equity
Beginning Balance			$ 1,373.8		$ 1,373.8
Net income	41.7	39.2	26.0	68.9	107.0	159.8	180.6	212.3
Other comprehensive income (loss):
Foreign currency translation					(65.1)
Interest rate and other derivatives, net of income tax expense of $0.1	(0.6)			0.3	(0.8)	1.1
Minimum pension liability adjustment, net of income tax expense of $1.5	1.1			0.1	4.9	(0.8)
Comprehensive income					46.0
Other noncontrolling interests				24.7	(5.1)
Dividends paid	(24.5)			(24.6)	(73.3)	(73.4)
Stock options exercised					1.1
Restricted stock executives and directors					0.9
Treasury shares acquired					15.1
Long-term incentive shares issued					6.1
Ending Balance	1,349.7				1,349.7		1,373.8
Capital Stock [Member]
Components of Shareholders' Equity
Beginning Balance, Shares			47,093		47,093
Beginning Balance			113.8		113.8
Other comprehensive income (loss):
Stock options exercised					1.0
Stock options exercised, Shares					(88)
Restricted stock executives and directors					0.9
Restricted stock executives and directors, Shares					(19)
Treasury shares acquired, Shares					(1)
Long-term incentive shares issued					5.9
Long-term incentive shares issued, Shares					(134)
Ending Balance, Shares	47,333				47,333
Ending Balance	121.6				121.6
Treasury Stock [Member]
Components of Shareholders' Equity
Beginning Balance, Shares			29,749		29,749
Beginning Balance			(132.0)		(132.0)
Other comprehensive income (loss):
Stock options exercised					0.1
Stock options exercised, Shares					(88)
Restricted stock executives and directors, Shares					(19)
Treasury shares acquired					0.1
Treasury shares acquired, Shares					(1)
Long-term incentive shares issued					0.2
Long-term incentive shares issued, Shares					(134)
Ending Balance, Shares	29,509				29,509
Ending Balance	(131.6)				(131.6)
Retained Earnings [Member]
Components of Shareholders' Equity
Beginning Balance			1,383.3		1,383.3
Net income					105.8
Other comprehensive income (loss):
Dividends paid					(73.2)
Ending Balance	1,415.9				1,415.9
Noncontrolling interest [Member]
Components of Shareholders' Equity
Beginning Balance			156.8		156.8
Net income					1.2
Other comprehensive income (loss):
Foreign currency translation					(18.9)
Other noncontrolling interests					(5.1)
Ending Balance	134.0				134.0
Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income (Loss) [Member]
Components of Shareholders' Equity
Beginning Balance			(148.1)		(148.1)
Other comprehensive income (loss):
Foreign currency translation					(46.2)
Interest rate and other derivatives, net of income tax expense of $0.1					(0.8)
Minimum pension liability adjustment, net of income tax expense of $1.5					4.9
Ending Balance	$ (190.2)				$ (190.2)