Retirement Plans and Postretirement Health Care and Life Insurance Benefits (Details) (Pension Plans, Defined Benefit [Member], USD $) In Millions, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended	6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2012	Apr. 30, 2011	Apr. 30, 2012	Apr. 30, 2011
Pension Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
Components of net periodic pension cost
Service cost	$ 3.4	$ 3.1	$ 6.8	$ 6.2
Interest cost	7.4	7.4	14.8	14.8
Expected return on plan assets	(8.5)	(9.1)	(17.0)	(18.2)
Amortization of prior service cost, initial net asset and net actuarial gain	3.2	2.5	6.4	5.0
Net periodic cost	$ 5.5	$ 3.9	$ 11.0	$ 7.8

An amount calculated as a basis for determining the extent of delayed recognition of the effects of changes in the fair value of assets. The expected return on plan assets is determined based on the expected long-term rate of return on plan assets and the market-related value of plan assets.

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The increase in a defined benefit pension plan's projected benefit obligation or a defined benefit postretirement plan's accumulated postretirement benefit obligation due to the passage of time.

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The actuarial present value of benefits attributed by the pension benefit formula to services rendered by employees during the period. The portion of the expected postretirement benefit obligation attributed to employee service during the period. The service cost component is a portion of the benefit obligation and is unaffected by the funded status of the plan.

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