Retirement Plans and Postretirement Health Care and Life Insurance Benefits (Details 6) (Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Defined Benefit [Member], USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2011	Oct. 31, 2010	Oct. 31, 2009
Other Postretirement Benefit Plans, Defined Benefit [Member]
Components of net periodic pension cost for postretirement benefit
Service cost	$ 22	$ 19	$ 21
Interest cost	1,228	1,565	1,896
Amortization of prior service cost	(1,656)	(1,329)	(1,308)
Recognized net actuarial loss (gain)	(71)	(58)	(195)
Net periodic pension costs	$ (477)	$ 197	$ 414

The net increase or decrease of changes in the value of either the benefit obligation or the plan assets resulting from experience different from that assumed or from a change in an actuarial assumption, or the consequence of a decision to temporarily deviate from the substantive plan.

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The increase in a defined benefit pension plan's projected benefit obligation or a defined benefit postretirement plan's accumulated postretirement benefit obligation due to the passage of time.

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The actuarial present value of benefits attributed by the pension benefit formula to services rendered by employees during the period. The portion of the expected postretirement benefit obligation attributed to employee service during the period. The service cost component is a portion of the benefit obligation and is unaffected by the funded status of the plan.

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