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Management agreement, fees and transactions with related party (Details) - USD ($)
3 Months Ended 5 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2020
Jul. 31, 2019
Jul. 31, 2020
Jul. 31, 2020
Jul. 31, 2019
Oct. 31, 2019
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Asset management fees $ 496,000 $ 655,000   $ 1,719,000 $ 1,940,000  
Insurance commissions 22,000   $ 22,000      
Secured loans receivable 5,169,000   5,169,000 5,169,000   $ 5,053,000
Rotunda 100 members [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Secured loans receivable 4,000,000   4,000,000 4,000,000   4,000,000
Unpaid accrued interest $ 1,169,000   $ 1,169,000 $ 1,169,000   1,053,000
Grande Rotunda, LLC [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Ownership by noncontrolling owners (percentage) 40.00%   40.00% 40.00%    
Ownership by parent (percentage) 60.00%   60.00% 60.00%    
Due to affiliate $ 5,900,000   $ 5,900,000 $ 5,900,000   $ 5,700,000
Managing Agent Hekemian & Co [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Asset management fees 484,000 643,000   1,682,000 1,898,000  
Leasing commissions and reimbursement of operating expenses 131,000 136,000   835,000 447,000  
Insurance commissions 96,000 80,000   152,000 129,000  
Additional services 0 0   0 131,250  
Robert S. Hekemian [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units 0 51,000   21,000 164,000  
Consulting fee per month       5,000    
Consulting fee quarterly installments       15,000    
Consulting services expense 0 15,000   8,000 45,000  
Robert S. Hekemian, Jr. [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units 86,000 93,000   322,000 286,000  
Allan Tubin [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units 5,000 8,000   20,000 14,000  
David Hekemian [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units $ 9,000 $ 14,000   $ 40,000 $ 41,000  
Minimum [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Asset management fees percentage rate       4.00%    
Maximum [Member]            
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]            
Asset management fees percentage rate       5.00%