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Deferred fee plan (Details) - USD ($)
9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2018
Jul. 31, 2017
Oct. 31, 2017
Deferred Compensation Arrangement with Individual, Excluding Share-based Payments and Postretirement Benefits [Line Items]      
Dividends payable $ 338,000
Deferred Fee Plan [Member]      
Deferred Compensation Arrangement with Individual, Excluding Share-based Payments and Postretirement Benefits [Line Items]      
Trustee fee expense 623,000 620,800  
Deferred trustee fees $ 609,000 $ 607,800  
Basis spread on any deferred fee (percentage) 1.50%    
Term of distribution to participants 10 years    
Shares issued 39,835 32,136  
Dividends payable $ 14,000 $ 13,000